All Comments on 'Think For Yourself'

<B>"There are always men like Tom. They would never be able to succeed if the wives remembered what's important."</B><BR>

Absolutely spot-on!<BR>

Why is it so many women in these stories think they need to deceive their husbands to prove their independance?

It seems unfinished and unresolved. What was the wife really thinking when she went out with the guy? What happens next?

good little story.

The only thing I would change about this story is in the phrase:

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"... if the wives remembered what's important..." I would substitute the word spouses for wives.

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No surprise that it's well written but maybe a bit of awe at the apparently never ending plethora of innovative plots!

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It <i>was</i> a bit of fun.

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Regards, Jack

as usual, of course. I truly enjoyed this one, as I do all of HDK's work. In fact this is especially meaningful because it shows how fine the line is between infidelity and faithfulness. That line drifts based on the participants. A tip of the hat to the author who has a unique talent for illustrating the possible trauma involved.

What a great resolution!

Rather than immediately confronting Tom physically and thereby 'proving' his jealousy he simply holds up a mirror to Becky. Guess she didn't like what she saw. But then she knew all along that what she was doing was wrong - but she liked the attention.

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

no wood shed for this one. this is the hdk caliber that i have come to know, respect, and appreciate. congrats on a real winner. a fan always.

Never knew there were so many ways to cover this ground. It will be fun to see what you come up with next! A good prevention story is a nice treat and this is one of the best. Thank You!

Good story.

This situation in real life would leave all people with less.

The cheated spouse would always wonder about the possibility of past or future betrayals.

The cheating spouse would aways wonder if they were really forgiven.

The greatest part of infedelity is the betrayal. That is a stain on a relationship that can never be washed away.

Nice to find that many husbands have gonads, and great to realize that some writers don't think people are as big an iniot as them selves. Really though after some of the dumb ass stories about a dufus husband that never seems to realize that his wife is being fucked...you know the kind...he comes home unexpectedly and catches his wife being fucked by his boss and loudly proclaims " What are you two doing?"

Well it was nice for a change.

but you put me in a win,win mode.what happen the next time you run into tom wife or tom.your daughter can't stop your mind from run over this problem.in a perfect world it would be nice.

Look how much better HDK's fabulous story is here vs the vile revolting shit that this idiot jakewho69 ALWAYS puts out.

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Night vs day ...

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this is a great great story. I am not sure I would take her back but there was no sexual cheating so Love gets a second Chance.

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BIG question.... <b> If the Husband had NOT set this up... would the wife cheated? would the other giy slip something into her drink? why met for Dinner at the Hyatt Regency? they dont have Red Lobster or OUTBACKS where they live? </b>

Duplicity makes it hard to retain your integrity. The marriage will be the less for it far into the future.*****Great idea and terrific writing.

I think he sums it up best with this quote:

"If succumbing to the only woman you ever wanted, or loved, is being a wimp, put me first on the list."

<p>I liked it.</p>

<p>Just a few elements that I kinda didn't like, because by the end of the story it felt to be the old "No harm no foul" approach that I've always hated in stories. That as long as the wife, or husband, doesn't <i>actually</i> have sex (oral sex, petting, and making out always appear to be exempt from this defination) nothing that they've done or said up to that point should matter and then it always seems to be a question of "what's all the fuss about?" if anyone questions their motives. And <i>all</i> of the supporting cast immediately sees the offended mate as the bad guy and not the person out on a date with someone who is not them if they don't quickly forgive them.</p>

<p>I can just see my wife now going "Whew" if I said "Honey you know my ex-girl friend from high school. The big breasted one? Yep thats her, well Sally and I just had dinner at the Holiday Inn but we didn't have sex, isn't that great!".</p>

<p>Anyone want to take a bet that she <i>doesn't</i> try to kill me in my sleep? I thought not >=)

<p>But if I just ignore that part at the end, for the most part it was really funny. I loved the fact he was able to get everyone together to make Becky see she was doing the same thing that she dispised in others made it just too funny. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that she shouldn't be forgiven or she can't be forgiven, it just seemed too quick. And after a few tears he couldn't seem to forgive her fast enough, that' all.</p>

<p>While I understand the idea behind coincidences, and that some folks don't believe in them, I found it kinda of funny that the sort of happy ending this story became was due to a complete and total "coincidence". If Dave had not gone into the garage to get a tool to help his neighbor and seen the light on the phone what would have eventually happened over time? And who has a extention light on phone's in their houses still? I know I don't (^_^).</p>

<p>I kinda wonder along the same lines as Harry did too. In that if it wasn't for a colossal <i>coincidence</i> Tom would have created a major foothold in Dave's life and in the life of his wife. She was already sympathizing with him. The phone call from the garage showed that, when Becky agreed with Tom about how jealous Dave was and said: <i>"His jealousy has no basis in fact. It's embarrassing how he always watches you, and tries to intimidate you"</i>. Makes you wonder about the status of her love when she takes the side of another man's view of her husband after 24 years of marriage. And then to accept and agree to a date with another man after they both throw in some jabs at her husband? And to do all this after admitting how much her husband doesn't like guy, but is willing to accept a date with him if they do it where no one knows them? Very, very deceptive.</p>

<p>But like I said before it was very funny and I got a major laugh out of it. I thought it was the best story I read today by a long shot. Just a few things that as her husband I'm not sure that I would just sweep under the rug because I was going to be a grandfather. Things like this tend to rear their ugly heads when you least expect it, and this was a major event not a *tiny* foot note in their lives</p>

-Risq

Sexist right wing rubbish like all of your stories....but well written

rule of the writer just to be cutely nonsensical instead of pragmatically far sighted.<P>

Good shot but compromised by HDK's 2 page length mandatory requirement. I really think you short change yourself writer in these instances. It's alright to leave an ambiguous ending if you wish but this was a chop job and hurt the overall intent and effort.<P>

You can and have done better.<P>

With High Regard

Yeah, I'm a big fan of HDK. Say what you may, but the man can construct an entertaining story like nobody else. He's witty, funny, charming and likes to take us for a ride with great relish! I can actually picture him rubbing his hands while his machiavelian mind, twists and turns, playing with mundane situations that will fit what will be the twist at the end. And I love every minute of it! Analyze this, it's fiction, folks, and he does it very well! He's also one of the reasons why I continue to come to the Loving Wife category and to Literotica per se when many times I have had it with this site--especially on the recent bout of truly BAD BAD BAD stories. You da man, HDK!

I have been a fan of HDK since I started reading Literotica some time ago. This story is just another example of why. The coincidence of the overheard phone call sets just fine with me, since without it there would be no story. We have to start somewhere. I enjoyed the humour in the tale,but it didn't diminish the wrongness of what the wife was doing. Accusing the husband of jealousy while believing the seducer is a deadly trait.

Although the consequences didn't go as far as those in The Wanderer's excellent story ,LIFE IS TOO SHORT, the basic premise was the same. A wife holding her husband's opinion so low is a wife in need of a reality check, especially since he hadn't shown this before.

Did she cheat? Technically, yes. She was doing something with another man that she didn't want her husband to find out. Even if she wouldn't have let him seduce her, she had gone too far. The husband's forgiveness should be gradual, since he will have a hard time trusting her in the near future. But---I'm a sucker for a happy ending, so we'll leave it at that. It's probably why my favorite Literotica story is HDK's ELEANOR RIGBY , the extended version. I'm just an old softy.

HDK is one of those good writers that we do not see enough of these days.

The Story is well written and interestingly refreshing. It is what we have come to expect from HDK and writers like him. Please keep posting on Lit.com. Heaven knows there are not enough of the good writers still posting stories.

Cheers!

It was a great read of such fun dialogue and a lot of good proactive attention by Dave towards his world. This was such a great idea (well a bit of a stretch, but who cares) of having all the women in their lives there.<P>I loved the one piece of dialogue by Mrs. Zimmer, it is new to me and made me laugh out loud.<P><P>EXCERPT: "I'm afraid my goal now is to conceal and support, rather than expose and entice. It would have been a different story thirty years ago."<P><P>Thank you for such great entertainment again!!!!!!!!<p>PT

Well thought out, very tightly written story with a neat little twist at the end. What more can one ask of an author? Loved it, HDK.

Hilarious! Has to be one of your best.

Boyd

...I really liked involving the family members the way Steve did. This is one of the most clever stories on the site. Well done!

'HDK:' <p>Always my pleasure to read one of your offerings. The setup for the fateful dinner scene was novel and refreshing. The only thing that for me detracted from the story is the use of the otherwise intelligent wife who is the only one who fails to see that the antagonist is determined to bed her. This device has been used <i>ad infinitum.</i> Otherwise, very enjoyable.

someone who is going to cheat that it's wrong. If only the mothers, daughters and sisters of some of the other authors wives would show up and keep them from betraying their husbands, that would be great.

Great story! I liked it quite a bit. Thank you.

A typical fine story by HDK. My only problem with it is the stereotypical brain-dead wife who is apparently the only one who cannot recognize a letcher when he hits on her. Very clever resolution of the problem, though.

the Ct. Yankee

you picked up the pace and are writting more frequently these days. Hell, I can even stop writting now that there is something to look forward to here on lit. No disrespect intented to the other authors, but HDK is in a class by himself. Nobody can pull off a LW story with humor the way he does. I've tried and failed miserably, HDK does it each and every time. Hail to the master. LYG

why Nicole Kidman's "Dogville" ("artistic" movie) is seen by no more than a few thousand folks, when millions were spent on the project: it was too unnecessarily silly and unrealistic. <p>

writing and movies are "arts"; they are not real, though they may be said to portray some thing close to being real. the rule is to make art "as real" as possible; when you take the 3rd or 4th derivatives of an art that is already NOT REAL, you push it too far. <p>

this story was not only bad and unbelievable; it was unnecessarily exaggerated. <p>

in "real life" answers to pop out of thin air like that; there's no eureka moments like the wife is said to have by HDK. <p>

life may be a stage play; but the "actors" don't walk off it and take off their actors clothes. HDK TRIED to make this "story" a parable of a stage play, where wisdom and enlightenment are announced promptly. <p>

the pomp pomps, giddiness, and applauses notwithstanding, I thought the story was badly exaggerated and unnecessarily simple-minded, nowhere sophisticated or subtle or unique enough to deserve such cheer-leading parade of congratulatory remarks... <p>

But, then, again, that's why you have the average majority........

Whenever a spouse cheats it like prostitution it takes two for the act to be completed. Becky knew what Tom wanted especially if anyone else can see it. So if Tom had drugged her she would have no place to go. In the end the problem was not Tom (one school of thought is that Becky put out vibes letting Tom know that his advances would be welcomed)it was Becky's attitude of disrespect.____________________

I loved the novel way you revealed the wrongness of her actions to her. It is said that if you do something that you must conceal it is highly likely it is wrong.________

Thanks for a great story!________________________________

SleeplessinMD

This was like an Uncle Bob story of over the top. Everyone at the restaurant and your character just being tough enough to beat the panty sniffer.

It is though worse that your groupies gave this hot ratings and raved about preposterous when one paragraph could have written the story. Aesophs Fables were great in teaching in a few lines. Try it sometime and you will deserve a good rating.

stupid egocentric bitch. He told her what was going on, she knew what was going on, and she did it anyway. It takes two to make intimate conversation and flirtation, the guy and the girl, she kept it going on for months. Then she sneaked out of the house without telling her husband she was meeting her seducer for dinner. One could argue, she admitted she knew the guy took her out to get in her pants, she knew he wanted sex that night and the only reason she went is because she had decided to give him her husbands loving wife. It is really saddening to know you are married to a disrespect, betraying, lying, cheating slut as in this story. But it is worse to keep the adulterous slut as your wife. Trash is trash, always throw out the trash.

It is really hard to disagree with Risq. I always agree with his opinions. This time I was happy to find his comment. When I read "I liked it," I thought Risq screwed up for the first time, but fortunately he did not. ____________________________________________________________________________________________

I am an HDK fan like the next guy, but part of being a fan is being honest. I did not like this story like I usually do to his other stories. I cannot articulate it as well as Risq does though. In short, when I reached the end, I thought the end was on a low budget. Thanks for writing.

She knew what he was doing and yet she felt she needed to play at the lions doorway.. She could see what it would appear to be and what she would appear to be when her mother, sister, and daughter showed up with men not their husbands.. I'm not sure I'd call her a slut, though.. With a little help from his friends, he put a kibosh on her dinner date, though. A really great read.

As a bit of fun it was okay. <BR>

But any critical analysis of the wife's conduct has to come out against her being any sort of 'trustable' person.<BR>

In real life, any man with a jot of integrity would just leave her. Why would a man stay with a woman who so easily disrespects him? The phone call was enough reason to leave her.<BR>

Why should previous years of 'good behaviour' count in her favour? If anything, it is those previous years which should have helped her stay on her husband's side. Surely, years of fidlelity aren't there to tot up as brownie points to use when you decide to be unfaithful?<BR>

Maybe as a woman I see it differently, so can someone explain?<BR>

This whole "no cock in a hole, no foul" theory is a load of crap!<BR>

I've got 35 years of marriage 'under my belt', but I can tell you for certain, if he went so far as to arrange a date with another woman, let alone one he knew I disliked, he would sure have to get out the door fast to keep it from hitting him in the arse!<BR>

Surely making a decision as this woman in HDK's story shows she has absolutely no feelings for her husband?? Surely!!!

While Kanga makes sense in a reasoned sort of way, I can also see why any person finds it compelling to be appreciated. I can also say that after 30 years of marriage, I can think of very little that I would not forgive my wife if she were truly repentant. Surely I could forgive this transgression.

Sir Knight

Loved the story. Especially the part about fighting FOR your wife instead of fighting OVER her that you alluded to early in the story.

That thought in mind, I don't think I would have been so forgiving. I find myself in agreement with Kanga that "no harm no foul" idea is as bogus as the one that is proliferating stories these days where the wife says "Why are you upset? I never denied you anything." They obviously failed to see the depth of their transgression where things like loyalty, priority and trust are trashed.

The only negative thing I can say is that we didn't get to see the initial look of surprise on Beckys face when she realized she had been set up and that her husband was in the building. I really wanted to know who the men were and how HE cleared it with the respective husbands. Nevertheless I commend you on a fine story.

Read ya later

Bishop

Madame Kanga (Not your Best by a long shot)

Is that really you cause you sound a little to close to HarryinPA. My apologies I don't meant to be insulting. How ever it sounds like you are stringing the wife up by her short hairs before she's undressed. Was she wrong for going to dinner with someone her husband desliked yes. Did she screw up priorities and step on respect yes. Did she plan to sleep with him? That's the point to be argued. Should she be thrown out on her arse? Well hold the phone, slow your roll. Don't confuse the sin with temptation. God himself doesn't condemn for the temptation he condemns for the sin. Is there now a breach of trust here? Yes. Is it unforgiveable - no and he is not showing weakness for doing so. Especially after what he arranged to happen. If he was to walk away now then why make the effort to stop it in the first place. Simply get a spy cam or Cheaters or a PI, get the goods on her and walk away clean. At only 22 years in my own marriage I may not have gone thru all that you have yet but I'll match investments anytime. He had a lot of time and heart invested in his marriage. Like any investment it goes up and down. This was definitely a down but not an out. This was more like Ricky Ricardo teaching Lucy a hard and embarassing lesson.

Respects to you Madame Kanga

Read ya later

Bishop

It's rare that I dislike an HDK story because he really is quite good. I do not like this tale because the author unintentionally (at least I hope it's unintentional) applies a double standard to Becky and Dave's situation. Here's what I mean: because Dave "knows" that Becky is in danger of being seduced by evil ol' Tom, it's okay for him to entice his mother-in-law, his sister-in-law and his daughter to "cheat" on their husbands in exactly the same manner by having dinner with former beaux and paramours. They are, in effect, committing the same folly as Becky is since they are "in danger" of being seduced by these "lowlifes". Yet somehow the author presents their indiscretions as not morally wrong. How does Dave know that Bruce isn't busily trying to seduce his daughter Jennifer, for example? He doesn't and therein lies the moral fault in the author's plot. Teaching his wife a lesson is one thing, endangering three other marriages is something quite different.

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The tale is well written in the author's usual engaging style, and clearly most people enjoyed it. I did not. I thank you, HDK, for your effort.

I think I said the story was OK.<BR>

My premise was that after the phone call the marriage was over. She knew all she needed to know about Tom and her husband, and chose Tom over hubby. End of story - IMO.<BR>

Then I mentioned my own take on the situation.<BR>

I can accept the course taken in the story by this guy - otherwise I could not have given the 75%.<BR>

<B>And...</B> you are the one who introduced sin/temptation to the discussion, but, today I won't bite.<BR>

I didn't suggest he walk away after the restaurant confrontation. <I>In this story</I> that was quite OK. The part about teaching her a lesson was a good part of the story.<BR>

My suggestion was leave after the phone call and not bother about the rest of the stuff.<BR>

I cannot understand the concept of fighting for 'love'. It is something you either give or you don't. I want love to be given to me, I don't see it as something I should fight for. The other person either loves me or not - it's their choice and has very little to do with me. You get to know me and love me as I am or go look elsewhere for what it is you want. If you are not what I want, I'll do the same, <B><I>BUT</I></B> I would have the integrity to let the other person know <I>before</I> I went looking elsewhere. <BR>

Sorry to mention an old fashioned concept like integrity, but I'm old enough to know what it is and to value mine! Unfortunately, I tend to expect others to behave similarly. Many of the disappointments in my life have arisen from that expectation.

Loved the story for what it is - a bit of nonsensical fun.

As for the other 'wives' - it is clear to me there is no way he could have organised the whole thing without the consent of the other husbands. And they knew he would be at the restaurant as well.

Maybe even the 'old flames' were real men - not just males ruled by their cocks? Men enough to know their reason for being there and happy to be just that.

There actually are more of these real men around than one might think from reading Literotica stories and the comments on them!

I'm glad you liked the story, DeadWould. Your analysis of why the story works for you is based on the assumption that these people are basically good at heart. If they aren't-- that's my assumption-- then the story takes on a completely different twist. Feel free to assume that Dave's male inlaws knew and approved of this soiree. I'll feel free to assume they didn't.

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Here's an interesting line from the story: <I>The present situation appeared to be aggravated by Bruce Davis' rather familiar touching of Jen's arms and hands.</I> Do you really believe that Joe wanted his wife's date touching her in such a manner? Do you think he consented to this? I don't.

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And then there's this statement: <I>I assumed that her husband, Bob, was taking good care of their three children.</I> The author's use of the word <I>assumed</I> means that Dave doesn't actually know what Gloria told Bob about her planned evening out. You may assume that she told Bob everything. I'll assume she didn't.

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As I said, most readers like the tale. I did not. Perhaps as you stated, the story is nonsensical.

HDK nails another one for originality. Alvaron's logic is totally skewed. The hero found an excellent way to teach her a lesson, but I'm still not sure I would ever trust again.

so many people must always try to "read between the lines" instead of taking the author's story at face value. Must be the inate psychologist in our make-up. I thought it was a well-written story and well-played out. The story states that the arrangement required many phone calls so why not assume that those phone calls covered all the bases: participants, husbands, and escorts. The whole - read "ENTIRE" - dinner was staged by the hubby. Works for me! Good story.

techsan asked "<I>why not assume that those phone calls covered all the bases</I>...?" Why indeed. How about because there's no overriding reason to make that assumption? We've no idea what those phone calls covered except that "<I>begging, whining, insisting, and threatening</I>" were required because the author didn't tell us. We don't actually know the nature of threats nor what Dave insisted upon. We don't know to whom he spoke nor what they spoke about.

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In other words, HDK left it to our imaginations. You have your idea of what you think was said. So do I. They probably aren't the same. Both of us are reading between the lines because the author left up to us to decide what those actions meant. Your reading between lines comes back with happy thoughts. Mine comes back with something different. If you play devil's advocate (as I'm doing :), you see that HDK tripped himself up because he left a bit too much to the reader's imagination. I have a pretty good idea why he did it -- it was for brevity. It keeps the story moving right along, and that's good. Unfortunately, the story's moral loses its thrust when you view the scenes in a more sordid light as I did on my second read through.

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Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day.

<p>Given the husband's obvious devotion to family and his loved ones, how can you for one moment assume that he convinced his wife's mother and sister and his own daughter to cheat on their husbands? The thought is totally ridiculous.</p>

<p>The thinking processes of some of the readers of LW stories to me is at once fascinating and disgusting. Many of these readers always write their own backgrounds to the story, altering the story in their own minds to make things into an absolute black v. white, good v. evil perspective. They presume motives never assigned by the authors. They twist the facts to fit into their own POV regardless of the pretzel-like contortions necessary to make that allignment.</p>

<p>People: read the story, accept the author's words for what they are. Allow the author his due. HDK has his own little morality play in mind with almost every Loving Wives story he posts. Mostly they are straightforward in their wording and simple in their execution. They ususally have a single simple and relatively original point to make and they make that point well.</p>

<p>But a certain part of the readership just can't accept that. They have to tear HDK's stories apart, twist their meanings until it is impossible for them to see the punchlines.</p>

<p>HDK's stories aren't that deep, people. His goal in life, IMO, is to come up with as many different and ORIGINAL Loving Wives scenarios as he can. If he can make those scenarios humorous, all the better. If you are looking for deep, try some other author.

I like the little things, like it wasn't just a wig he wore to the resteraunt, it was a bad wig. And as far as encouraging his MIL, SIL and daughter to cheat, get fucking serious people, they they were having an intergenerational girly night.

is the fact that most likely Dave made sure that all families went along with this punishment. I'm sure that all the husbands were quite aware of what was going on that fateful evening and consented as a lesson to their own spouses. GREAT STORY and wonderful premise.

Happened to revisit this story and got a chuckle out of thebullet's comments. Perhaps he can show me where I stated that "Dave convinced" his female relatives to cheat on their spouses. I made no such statement so saying that I did is ridiculous as well as wrong. What I said was that we don't know what Dave said, it could have been anything.

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I do not believe that people do good because it is their nature. They act as they've been taught, in accordance with what they have learned. I make no assumption that characters in a story are intrinsically good or evil. By their words and deeds, the author will show me who they are. HDK didn't exactly cover all those bases in this tale.

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I leave you with two thoughts. One, if JPB had written this story instead of HDK, would you still think that these people are refugees from a Norman Rockwell painting? Hmmmm, maybe not. Two, it's a Loving Wife story. Why in the world would I assume that all of these people are goody-two-shoes? That's silly. There's supposed to be hanky-panky going on so why not imagine Gloria or Jennifer playing around? Sure, it blows away HDK's morality play but that's his problem, not mine. Write better, and don't leave loopholes where sick, twisted imaginations like mine can ask, "What would JPB do with this?" ;)

<p>Alvaron wrote:

<i>the author unintentionally (at least I hope it's unintentional) applies a double standard to Becky and Dave's situation. Here's what I mean: because Dave "knows" that Becky is in danger of being seduced by evil ol' Tom, it's okay for him to entice his mother-in-law, his sister-in-law and his daughter to "cheat" on their husbands in exactly the same manner by having dinner with former beaux and paramours. They are, in effect, committing the same folly as Becky is since they are "in danger" of being seduced by these "lowlifes". </i></p>

<p>Alvaron, the writer's intentions are straightforward and above board. You feel the need to impart your own subplot that subverts the point of the story --and it is obvious that no other reader felt that subplot was accurate or necessary or warranted.</p>

<p>Geez, Alvaron, are you turning into Harry? I think you are looking for holes in the plot that aren't really there. And most of Harddaysknight's stories aren't deep enough to warrant such perusal. They are vignettes, variations on the loving wives theme designed to be slightly different from all of the other same old same old LW stories.</p>

<p>If you vigorously look for holes in the plot, you may find them, but so what? Most of these stories weren't designed to stand up to such scrutiny. And by the way, if HDK had taken a paragraph or two to assuage your suspicions about what the other women were up to, it would have taken away from the story.</p>

<p>What don't you just go with the flow, Alvaron? Allow HDK to tell his story, accept his explanations as the truth, and enjoy the ride?</p>

Each of us can read this differently and at different levels.

I really can not understand why the wife met Tom but the husband's little play was beautiful. There are so many truths touched on here in very few words...

Doesn't anybody ever read a story just for what it is. A story. Entertainment. Why all the analyzing and debating?<p>And oh, yes, let's not forget the asses who don't like a particular author, but keep on reading him/her, call them idiots, morons, and the like. When will you learn to stop reading some one that doesn't do it for you. Oh, yes, let me guess, you like to belittle authors. How nice of you. ML

Loved the story, It was funny, funny, funny. The 3 family members were not "cheating" but "acting" to show the wife exactly what she was doing. I could not stop snickering as her siruation became worse and worse. Again, loved it. Thank you. Jim in AB.

I liked the idea of using the family members help to put things in perspective.Well done HDK !

I love your stories. They don't paint the wife's betrayal as a horrible, sexual slut story before they reconcile. It is so easy to betray someone's trust in so many ways that have nothing to do with sluttish behavior... To overcome any betrayal of any sort is what making a marriage work means.

I think this is the third story of yours that I've read. You haven't disappointed me yet.

Well done -

Head off the disaster with some very clear object lessons -

The only improvement or lack I felt was that it could/should have ended with Dave saying -

"Okay I paid for all those tables let's go have a nice dinner together"

It would have added a bit of light at the end of the tunnel -

You ARE one of the masters of this genre. Thanks!

I spent the better part of my life being a jock(state wrestling champ 191, shoot potter , varsity football player and all state 3 years ), A marine (3 combat tours in Viet nam , wounded many times) and grew up with the notion from my dad , " what is right , is right ".

After being away from home for over 6 years , I returned to to find many changes. The greatest and most shocking was that my girl for the last 10 years was beiong pursued by several people I won.t call them men. I was always taught to speak plainly and clearly as not to be misunderstood. I was also taught to not bring attention to myself or underestimate my opponent.

The people that thought that my girl was easy had to learn the hard way. She was true and we loved each other. That knowledge was what kept mye alive and striving to come home . So when they made thier move I was made awate of it and took matters into my own hands . I was hgappy to make it possible for all of them to carry tyhise cocks and balls around in a glass jar. I had them delived to their famiolies after they got out of the hospital.

Our stoty hero did what I woud have done however Tom would have never made it down the street with his balls and cock.

40 plus year old hides are not sexy so I gave it a 1.

Why is such an asshole allowed to make his inane comments on this website?

This guy should be banned from making comments. He makes HIV look like Stephen Hawking.

He is a troll and he will continue to troll until he is banned.

The part I like the best is how proactive the guy is. He isn't waiting in the bushes to see if she'll go all the way. He held up a mirror to her so she could SEE how she looked.

It ended a bit abruptly and I could have used a third act, but it was good.

a "tool used for the scraping and collecting of dog turds in the yard."

Hey you people should lighten up on DWornock especially his mother, with her knowing that she never had a child that lived. Now come on people.

takes a lot of "CHUTZPAH" with compassion. TK U MLJ LV NV

Wife goes on DATE with man husband hates; this is relationship suicide. At the very least, this couple would be headed for counseling. The husband would lose any trust in her for the remainder of their marriage. I really feel that non-erotic entries require elements of realism that readers can relate to.

Closet cuckolds are by definition losers who are incapable of fighting for their women. HDK uses a smart and humorous story to exemplify this basic truth. UA is a closet cuckold of the first order. Desirable women want men who will fight for them.

... I think Becky may be insane. For what other reason would she act that way?

improbability (getting all those family women to dinner on one night with appropriate men) when it's satisfyingly patterned, and I love appropriateness, so allI can say is ...lovely! Congratulations!

you should put this story in humor and satire and not loving wives.

If someone harms your child you fight, If someone tries to steal your stuff you fight. But if you got a old lady that actually plans to cheat on you, just smile at her and get another one

She knew it was wrong to have a dinner date and she damn well knew what Tom wanted. She tells herself she can keep it friendly - nope, don't think so.

Conning herself all week, dressing to the nines and atually meeting Tom, she would have a few drinks, accept some compliments, a few more drinks and then wonder how she ended up fucking good old Tom.

She didn't respect her home, herself, her vows, her family or her husband enough to refuse any contact with Tom. Hubby would realize that and even though she didn't get to enjoy the whole evening with Tom, she had intended to - sorry, marriage over.

He'll always wonder now, when she goes to special events, company functions, work extra and/or when he occasionally travels what she may be doing. The little green monsters in our minds are killers and she unleashed a pack of them. Too bad, he loved her for hewrself and without conditions. Unfortunately, she encouraged Tom for months by accepting his flirty come-ons and he knew she would be reseptive with the right circumstances and I'll bet she enjoyed his advances!

There is no way an intelligent woman would have a quiet tete a tete dinner with a man, whom her husband detests. The fact that she has kept this from her husband means she knows she is doing wrong. Can Becky really be that stupid?

Not very realistic. I would have horned in on the phone conversation and explained that my .45 pistol makes me equal to any karate expert.

And the wife? The fact that even warned she went anyway, while planning it to be a secret?

Cheater. Still...cute.

Cute strory, but in what way wasn't the wife cheating? Going on a secret dinner DATE with a man she KNEW wanted to get in her pants, while hubby is out of town IS cheating. OK, she wasn't going to sleep with the guy right in the restaurant- BUT how would the evening have ended, and would she have kept dating Tom if her husband hadn't caught on? Obviously, accepting the dinner date was something his wife DID do. How could her husband ever trust her again? The result for this story would be for the husband to KNOW forever that his "loving" wife was open to dating other men, as shown by her own actions. Even worse, she would date a guy she KNEW her husband didn't trust or like. Dating others IS cheating for married people.

What would have happened if things would have played out without family showing up? Would she have screwed her date and become a cheating wife? We will never know. Still a great tale, as usual.

lousy story line. Next time she wants something a little strange she just won't advertise it.

Good story right up to the restaurant scene. It would have been better to not have been as dramatic and elaborate. It pushes the reader out of the plot. I had hoped he was going to meet the interlopers wife, also in make up and put on a show for the other two.

Excellent story. Mind pictures were clear. A little muddled at the end but overall one of the best.

So after 24 years you still have to babysit your wife because she won't trust your feelings about an interloper? What kind of marriage is that? Even if he was wrong, she still should have respected his feelings. They could have put the shithead to a test to see if that was what he was after. Fuck it, he married a shitty wife. 24 years and she doesn't really trust his judgement. Why bother?

Good story 'till near the end. I was hoping to read that Tom got his ass kicked. Cheers!

she obviously has no brains

it will upset my husband but i will do it anyway

what he doesnt know wont hurt him

sound familiar?

I really liked the way this one was handled...

How 2 tell fiction from reality: Fiction exaggerates to drive A point.

How 2 tell porn from real life: Real life has smells and taste.

How 2 tells guys who do not understand the difference: Have them post complaints about the fictional behavior of fictional characters in the fictional non compos mentis called the Internet.

For crying outloud fellows, just for once control your tantrums and just enjoy the amusing stories as little tidbits to sample.

Wife gets to go see Tom's wife and outline how her hubby invited her ALONE to a fancy dinner WITH a hotel...and did wife know about this?

If you wish to delete this, please feel free to.

Glad to see that he had a wonderful relationship with his Mother-in-law, Sister-in-law and daughter. Becky got embarrassed in front of all the people that were important to her. She won't forget that lesson forever! Clever husband. Too bad he didn't either catch up with Tom or have a little phone conversation with Tom's wife, just to make sure he set Tom straight!

When you raise a child, you teach them how to determine right from wrong. You prepare them to make honorable and decent choices, when you are no longer there to make the choices for them.

The idea that a husband can and should prevent his wife from making choices that demean and disrespect him and their relationship is ridiculous. Becky wanted to be a slut. Dave should have taken notice and "moved on".

No, Dave didn't need to wait for the completion of the seduction, or the consummation of the affair. He didn't need to prove that she did, or would fuck Tom. He should have showed up at the restaurant, and said hello to Becky. Whether she continued with her dinner (or more) with Tom was irrelevant. They both knew she had made her choice. The idea that "if you catch me in time", I will make the correct choice, is for 12 year olds.

Dave should have filed for divorce under "irreconcilable differences". You can't force another adult, to want what they don't want, or treat you with decency or respect. MOVE ON, it will only get worse if you stay.

Robert

"Becky, you make me so goddamn mad!" I whispered.

"That's it, Dad! Sweet talk her!" chuckled Jen as her grandmother and aunt laughed with her.

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Best lines of the story...haha Liked this, although would have liked it even more if Dave would have gotten hold of Tom...even for a minute...*evil laugh here...*

5 Stars

it always is when one tries to prove a point and maintain a status quo. TK U MLJ LV NV

Fantastic visual dining room scene! Funny how we are all hypocritical to some degree, and only when we have our noses rubbed in it do we admit it! Have you ever noticed how women seem to feel a need to compete with their husbands in the relationship? Not so much the men, but many women seem to feel the marriage relationship is competitive rather than cooperative!

It's too bad that Toms wife couldn't be there.

very inventive, I loved the idea. I imagine all that were in on the charade, also learned something for their future. great planning.

While I like the ingenuity that went into his plan, it won't work in the long run. She knew all along what was happening with that other man and for the sake of her ego she went with it. What happens when hubby lets down his guard next time because she "came to her senses" this time?

She was the type of person who knows what's best for her, and only her. Didn't matter that she allowed all of this to happen at her husbands and her work function with what I would assume to be their friends in attendance. She might have been sure that she wasn't going to do anything but perception is a bitch in these instances. She risked her and her husband's business and personal reputations to get her ego and maybe her pussy stroked. Just a matter of time until this type of behavior implodes. I don't think that women should be struck by a man, but if the other man is subject to a beating to get his head straight, what should happen to the one who is actually the keeper of the marriage trust? I don't think the loss of her husband and family goes far enough because she obviously didn't have any respect or regard for either when she allowed this type of situation to evolve. If she thought she was hiding something maybe she could convince herself no one would ever find out. However, what she was doing was in your face and out in the open. No hope for this one. So sad.

The comments so far all agree, at least I do, Becky knew all along what Tom was doing and instead of dismissing Dave, Becky should have approached Tom's wife with the issues and stood by her husband more. The fact Becky secretly prepared and participated in a dinner arranged by Tom was completely inappropriate as a wife. If Becky had sat down and told Dave (her husband) the Friday night plan with Tom, allowing both to decide if this was an event allowable to their marriage or family standards, then fine. Becky did nothing. The fact that Becky would ambush her mother and sister all the while keeping secret her own reasons for being in the same restaurant to begin with. That proof is shown when Dave returns to the restaurant and Becky sees Dave and begins to cry. The moral of this story to me is? Marriage is not a high school fling! This contains vows or promises and many may disagree, but promising yourself to someone else until death do you part and same for your spouse or partner means just that. Any contact or conduct towards or with anyone without the partners permission IS INAPPORPRIATE! 5 stars for a well done story and food for thought.

for both the goose and gander, TK U MLJ LV NV

I want to know EXACTLY what he said to his Mother-in-law and her husband, his sister-in-law and her husband and his daughter and her husband to get them to play along. And where did he dig up all the men that played their dates? And what punishment did he exact from his darling, lying cheating wife? Because she may not have slept with Tom but she sure was doing things she shouldn't have considering she's a married woman and that her husband had WARNED her about Tom's intentions. So what about a sequel with some further explanations?

A story where the husband fights for his wife and marriage. I seriously have problems with the husband giving his spouse enough rope to hang herself. If he can't stop the train wreck, he should end the marriage or relationship as quickly as possible.

He didn't give her enough rope for her to hang herself...He only gave her a little rope...But he was lucky listening the call...If he hadn't listened, she really would have hung herself...

This isn't a wife out looking for some strange, just a prideful woman thinking she is doing no harm to her marriage while she is.

Not thinking that this will cause her to think that she has got it past her husband and make her think less of him and lead her down that slippery slope to cheating.

Giving rope is for those that have already gone too far down the path to ever come back, then the reason is to game the corrupt system so that the asset division and/or child custody is more reasonable or to make it so that others see the truth about her, or in extreme cases a gonad recovery.

Why not tell her that even Mrs. Zimmer is noticing?

And a husband shouldn’t HAVE to fight for his wife.

Doesn’t Becky find it odd that a MARRIED man wants to take her out to dinner without his WIFE? Doesn’t it occur to her to check with Lorraine to make sure she’s aware of Tom’s plans?

“Dave would be extremely upset. I know that for certain," Becky correctly reasoned. "It could get ugly fast if he found out."

So, the only problem is that Dave might get upset? She WANTS to do this, sees nothing wrong with it?

Why doesn’t he go to Tom, and tell him to stay the fuck away from his wife? Sure, Becky will get pissed, but since she seems unwilling to see reality he has no choice.