All Comments on 'Two's a Crowd Ch. 05'

Good story, although why Bruce is helping now I cannot understand.

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Tangentially, back in chapter 1 Harry said that the premise of Bruce getting married but not knowing ANYTHING about her background, and ignoring the sexual rumors about his wife-- would turn out to be big deal.

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Good call

This is a terrible wash of phycho drama. First of all the woman is crazy, plainly, simply crazy. She may have had a rough life, lots of us have had rough lives. We dont do crazy things. One comes to terms with reality sooner or later, it appears in your story she is coming to reality and possibly it is that reality that may allow this man who has been so badly abused by this woman to put her memory in a drawer, close that drawer, and forget her. More likely since Myr blames him for abandoning her that Estelle will overcome Myr and kill him in a fit of anger. People with these types of disorders are normally kept on medications to protect themselves and others. Come on end this farce. I dont read this because I get some kick out of it, I read it to see how you will attempt to withdraw yourself from the seeming blackhole you have let this sink into.

What a marvelously convoluted tale you are weaving.

Thanks for sharing this dark creation.

and he predicted this one [based upon the author's hate for men in general] to a precise on-going conclusion. Credit to Harry but some credit goes to the author for being so predictable in the character development & plot line features. Of course, the writing itself is always great - it just the wimp husband/ slut wife concept that is so prevailing in this sad story.

Come on now folks... admit it. At the beginning of this chapter weren't you LAUGHING your fucking ass off at Bruce's actions words and behavior?

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In Chapter 4 reader after reader wondered what I did... WHY Bruce never explained WHY Now?? After all this time Humilation and Pain WHY did Bruce decide NOW was the time to find out the truth.

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In this chapter even the Lesbian Tennis player Erica (the author in case you did figure it out for yourself) is making fun of this loser.

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...<i>"Even in your stupidity you are utterly lovable. Good God, I am just trying to imagine that afternoon. Why on earth did you have to fall for a slut like her?" </i>

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But this was the killer... when Erica asks

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...<i>"Hold it, Bruce. Are you telling me that you plan to help her?"

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"Shouldn't I?"

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She shook her head, smiling. "You're an utterly lovable idiot, as I said before," she said. "You are a fool, but sometimes I wish I were straight enough to grab you.... </i>

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at that point I was laughing so hard I had to go pee...

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Erica is his FRIEND right? so Bruce the Gay straight man is in Deep searing emotional Pain and Erica is calling him an idiot fool and loser.

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and that Bruce's BEST friend!!

<p>very well written and gripping drama that has begun to make sense. Regardless of how much a complete and utter asshole like Harry belittles her work, angiquesophie gives us gripping and textured stories for those of us willing to read them.</p>

<p>the LW Nazis could never accept a multiple personality disorder as an 'excuse' for infidelity since to them there is no such thing as an 'excuse' for infidelity.</p>

<p>What they don't understand is that the story is not about Myr's infidelity, it is about her relationship with her husband and her second self and her struggles to resolve the two lives she leads. She is currently losing her battle with her other self and her ex-husband is her only anchor capable of saving her from that other reality.</p>

<p>The Harrys of this world have no understanding of compassion or even love, so they pre-defined the husband in this story as a weak-willed wimp, based upon the author alone. What I do not understand is: why do they read the story if they already know what is going to happen? Merely to tout their own vast understanding of the awful man-hating lesbian, angiquesophie?</P>

<p>Gentlemen, if you read her work with just a bit of an open mind (I know - that's asking way too much), you would find a writer of depth and complexity who deserves a discriminating readership; unlike the misogynistic thugs that frequent this website.</p>

<p>No Offense intended. Oh, and I will begin to take Harry seriously the day he has the balls to post his own work.</p>

I love the way the author has kept the focus on the way the woman has changed. Now it all comes out that the woman hasn't changed, but has always had a problem and much strife in her life.If what she has confessed to Bruce is factual, then there's no wonder she's a raving lunatic.It's going to take a lot of drug induced therapy to cure this girl. A great story and it has been told by a fabulous teller of tales. Thanks for the trip to her personal hell, and I'm glad I've got a round trip ticket ...Rich

You are losing me here. The symptoms of MPD are not present in Myriam. Also a gang rape at age 11? Finding that many sexual predators in one town would be a feat in itself. Now let us assume the author has a clue about what she has written here(she doesn't). Bruce hires three men to have sex with Myriam. Shades of her gang rape. Then she comes to New York to talk to the man who has set up that little scenario. Myriam is to lucid of what "Estelle" has been doing. She reverts from to the other at too convenient a time. And that is not how the disorder works. Now let us deal with the history. Myriam/Estelle kills her stepfather in a room of sexual predators. Only the stepfather is killed. What were the other grown men doing? Why did Myriam/Estelle only kill one and not all? Too selective for a rage murder. All of this would have been talk of the town even twenty years later. And yet Bruce never hears about it. And what of Myriam"s mother? If Bruce ever met her she would have told of it for sure. Something like this, "You take good care of my girl she has been through a lot." Even a small warning like that would have put him on a course to find out at least what was known publicly. My conclusion is either the author is lying to me or Myriam is lying again to Bruce. Now let assume the author is not lying to me. And that Myriam is not lying to Bruce. What should Bruce do? Walk away. She has refused medical help. Bruce is not the solution to her problems, he never was. If she refuses medical help there is nothing he can do for her accept become her jailer. So is Bruce ready to lock her up so she can't hurt herself or him again? Sorry can't buy into this line of reasoning. Myriam does not exhibit the signs of a person with MPD nor is she schizophrenic. So someone is lying.

This writer's work is often difficult, and this is probably the hardest of her stories to follow. Let me say this. Angi writes beautifully. She can make the written word sing, dance, jump up and down, roll over and do somersaults. The characters in these stories are always very complex and not very sympathetic, but she has a deft way with dialogue that most writers simply can't match. However, I believe those who say she is a man-hating lesbian are 100 percent wrong. In fact, there are times when she writes more like a gay man. Her male leads are all usually angst-ridden and whiny, like Bruce here, but they are usually just disappointing. But the women? Oh. My. God. Every female in an angi story is a flagrant slut, devious beyond words, with a gilded air of class and privilege that masks a person with no soul. In other words, they are every gay man's stereotypical female. The Queen Bitch. The truly maddening thing about angi is that her stories are like a box of really good sinfully-rich candy. You know they aren't good for you, but you just have to eat the whole box. You can't stop. And that's the way it is here. This series is the first thing I'm reading when I get on here, and the images stay with me through the day. And it will be that way until the finish, whenever that is. I guess that's what makes a good storyteller, and angiquesophie is one of the best.

But not sure I like the story now. She's proven herself to be a real piece of work. Better for the guy to walk away now that she's in treatment.

As I commented after the last chapter, dissociative identity disorder (DID) really does not fit Myriam's character as outlined. Bruce, for one, would have wondered at the lapses of amnesia during a marriage lasting 10 years. I just don't think he could have been kept in the dark all that time, no matter how careful "Estelle" might have been. The personality switches of DID are unpredictable and can happen randomly. Any stressor would likely trigger a shift. Now, we know it's just a story and there is artistic license, so maybe getting technical is out of line here. But it does go to credibility. The reader might question a story regarding a man who walks on water (well, most such stories, anyway); the same is true for this one. I agree with other comments that Myriam is either mentally ill, and needs lots of help (but has avoided getting it; after all, her '2 year therapy' as a child did not help), or she is a really clever faker and actress who knows how to ring Bruce's bells and make him dance to her tune. It's unfortunate that Bruce is such a weak character that he can't move on with his life. As others have said, neither character is likeable. Oh, one other thing. Estelle has a very large carbon footprint . . .

This doesn’t sound like MPD.

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If Estelle left Myr alone most of the marriage, what was the stressor that required her return?

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Myr obviously knows most everything Estelle does. She also knows enough to infer what has gone on during times she was “gone”. Therefore, she must know what a complete torture of language it is for her to claim Myr was always honest. She knew she was out the entire night with the guy. If she didn’t know what they did, she knew she didn’t know and Estelle must have done it. She must have completely understood Bruce was leaving because of what Estelle did and Myr can never prevent Estelle from destroying Bruce in the future. If she loves him, how can she ask him to stay with her when it clearly means his doom?

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Who is the third personality who speaks of Myr in the third person? A narcissist would speak of herself in the third person, not an MPD.

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And, most of all, how is it that Myr magically appears whenever she has to assert her complete innocence, despite the assertion that Estelle is the dominant power, but Estelle magically appears whenever it is time to misbehave?

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As the church lady said, “Isn’t that convenient?”

Dear Sophie, I often appreciated your tales, but this is not the time. I can't believe that a paid whore can have a romantic twist: she has chosen to be a whore and for any action there is a reaction. This reaction makes a sentimental life impossible to a paid whore and the Multiple Personality crap is a poor excuse to be a tart without payng its cost: it is accepted only in feamale dominated societies.

Enzo

The author already proved that what you see is what you get with her pretentious writing which promises much but does provide any thing beyond it. If you need to consult with psychologists and psychiatrists or be one for a correct diagnosis of characters which other wise make no sense, you know you went way too far in giving undeserved credit to the author, It’s not a psychiatric hospital - it's a story and a bad one at that. Both unintelligible AND predictable, who else can give you that? If you can see that I say: why suffer? And to the fans – enjoy this soup!

Very realistic characters and believable situations. Many women have had these experiences, but few are damaged as profoundly as Myr. Coping with abuse is not easy, and it never ends. Superb story.

I am the one who has changed my mind about this writer.-Something dreadful is wrong with this lady!--IF she's telling the truth -she is in dire need of help -Anybody who is in love or ever been in love has gotta realize You just Can't walk away without at least trying to help --This is a real sad depressing story -but really well written -multi dimensional personality in Estelle --She is crying for -HELP

At last, at least we are getting Myr's story, but I'm not sure that it's credible. However it is possible and this is a story, so that's OK with me.

I do hope it doesn't descend into too much phsyco stuff.

I'm still looking forward to the next chapter.

You have excellent technical skills. While your stories often portray the men as spineless and clueless and the women as manipulative, this one had a different feel to it. I cannot say I loved it but it was interesting and worth reading, then you go and put in the psychological cliche. I will not get into the technical issues of MPO, assuming you are going to have your character actually have it and not be simply playing a game. It is, however, beneath you are a writer to bring it into this story. It is an easy way to explain away bad behaviour. I could go on, but as a reader I as very disappointed. Michael

Love the story or not you cannot deny this writer is a breath of fresh air. She shows imagination and insight not seen for sometime on this site. If you don't like what she is writing about just pick another story where some sod is married to a whore who wants him to come home and clean her out. LOL Or maybe you prefer the classic black guy who dreams of owning all white women in the world, making them his sex slaves and ridiculing their wimpy white husbands. If your tired of the same old crap simply wait to see where this story goes. Its not over till the fat lady sings.

I love your writing style. It is almost beautiful to read. You could make a cookbook readable. I also like how you are exploring infidelity allegedly caused by a mental illness. Questions raised by the readers questioning Myr's stories are those that would be raised by any husband. Keep up the good work. You are examining a subject that is worthy of your talents.

The source of the prejudice is of course the writer. She caused it intentionally - it is her addictive need for rejection and pain - much like her absurdly whorish non-bi women.<P>

In this warped sick work [ perhaps a written autobiography ] the writer uses a weak sick braindead used to be a man as the foil for her twisted effort to give reason for her painted whore to explain the contrived why.<P>

The question isn't why in repetitive time after time scenarios - as the answered reason is as convoluted as the repetitive duplicitous distortion of female win - weak ass male loses - again. And Again. And Again.<P>

The only explanation is absurdly apparent and consistently visible to those who have unblinded eyes and who can sort through the pretty word flow. Its like a mobile accident that isn't that most can't ride by without looking even while knowing that everyone is dead - again.<P>

Different isn't automatically good regardless of who says it is. Apparently some can disassociate talent from the message that their brother is absurdly warped while his spouses distorted visage is acceptable as long as worded with strong ability.<P>

Something deeply wrong there for supposedly intelligent people to defend their brothers quiet queasy assassination instead of offering their constructive advice to arrive at a more credible product that the 99% could appreciate - be truly entertained by.<P>

Perhaps they too realise that her head is turned away and feverishly working on her next male debasement.<P>

How sad - for all.

Let's all remember that this is a story. It is rather well crafted. We are learning to love and hate certain characters, becoming part of the story, gaining empathy. Personal opinions about the direction of the story really aren't part of the importance of leaving comments. Please continue to the closure we all are looking for, but do please keep it going for a while! thx!

Jack Straw and the Bullet made some really insightful comments about our beloved? story teller. Some others were OK, but most of them were anonymous, as I am. Some were just a bit less....... and you have to wonder why they are on this site, because they just hate many of the stories. It's as if they somehow think that repeated criticism will make the authors only write story lines that they agree with and then all will be well in the world. Well, their world perhaps.

I don't think the author hates men, Perhaps fascinated with them might be more accurate. She? seems fascinated with male characters who have the capacity to love deeply and without reservation. When their love cheats they run to save themselves, but like a moth to a flame, they come back to perhaps be burned again. Perhaps most men lack the capacity to love like that, always keeping something in reserve so as to save themselves when things start to go awry?

I think it is a bit of a reach to get too technical with whether or not Myr/Estelle really fits neatly into a particular personality disorder type. It's a fictional story after all, at least I certainly hope it is?

Kudos to a writer who has skills far beyond my own and who presents a story that I look forward to reading each time a new chapter is presented.

You are doing a fantastic job of weaving a tale. The emotion and heat in the various responses and comments tell me that you are really doing great. If the story and writing weren't so good, would those who are commenting get so worked up? NO.

Great, keep it going! Now, on a personal level, it is a distressing story and causes lots of conflicting emotions in me. But that is because of your skill as a writer. Those who accuse you of all sorts of personality defects miss the point.....you are creating a great, if very uncomfortable, story, and you should be applauded for that, and that alone.

to read the comments! If the measure of a stories emotional impact is the number, length, and vitriol of the comments, then angiquesophie is drawing as much or more emotional response than anyone else on the site!<br><p>

Her characters are flawed, dysfunctional, even, dare we say, MAD! They are petulant, argumentative, irritating and self-absorbed, like over-the-top versions of the rest of us. LOL!<br><p>

I severely object, though, to insulting the author, or attributing to her the attributes of her characters. Her imagination takes her places, but that is not a reflection of her. Object to her plot, object to her characters, object to her writing style (although I don't know how one could!) but don't attack the author.

The Ex-wife whichever one Bruce married. Turned into a hooker because her stepfather raped her. Huh. This also caused her to have a split personality, which continued even into adulthood. They seem to be argueing amongst themselves. First signs of madness is when you answer or argue with yourself. That and hairs on your palms. But seriously, the writer is having fun with us. She is taking us in to the world of pyscho babble. One last point, is anybody finding this story erotic? Enquireing minds want to know.

second: Myr/Estelle is playing a game, she might be crazy but not the way she want's Bruce to believe.

third: why want somebody write something like this in literotica? I just don't know. there is no fetisch or extreme sex practise or what ever. you can't really get a kick out of emotionally disturbed people, can you?

I wrote a comment on an earlier chapter about the reality of escorts and again I must post anonymously. My concern is that the psychotic women in these stories bear no resemblance to the reality of escorts. I have no problem with the portrait of Miryam as a loon and the author could have developed the split personality story without making her a secret prostitute. It bothers me that writers, male and female, portray escorts as devious creatures who lie and steal. The "Loving Wives" convention of the supposedly loyal wife acting the secret prostitute is threadworn, like the overused cliche of the husband tied up and forced to watch a mistaken revenge fuck. I've been tempted to write a story that is more real but that would, I realized, betray too much knowledge of too many real people on both sides of the discreet envelope, including myself. I do know women who have met men while escorting and then continued without his knowledge for a period of time, but I've never heard of a long term deception of magnitude. The worst is a boyfriend (or girlfriend) who has gradually become serious and the question is whether to tell and what to say. As the infamous Belle says, "the conversation." If the relationship becomes serious, the woman usually "retires" or goes "below the radar," so she retains the ability to come back if the relationship founders. A few other points for our authors. First, escorts speak to each other. They talk online and on the phone. They meet for lunch and talk clothes and travel and shop. Second, escorts have websites or are listed with agencies. They advertise. A few rely on carefully selected referrals, but that is not the norm. The typical "Loving Wives" scenario of the office mate or predator who sets up a wife / escort with unknown man after unknown man is nonsense out of the Victorian white woman kidnapped novels. Many escorts are "low volume providers," meaning they see a few clients and that may be a few a week or a month not a day. The volume of clients seen in these stories is almost only found in brothels and the regular appearance of gangbangs is a male fantasy. Some escorts have a few regular clients and many have those plus the transient ones. Third, an escort may call herself a whore but it is a curse when uttered against another. The word implies lax morals and standards. An escort is careful, professional and clean while a whore is not careful, unprofessional and even sometimes unclean. Fourth, it's all about Benjamins. A woman can pick up extra money and a few can make a truly handsome living providing companionship and having sex. Most escorts do not make much and don't save much. Putting aside the desperate end of the business, an escort may be a 20-50 year old, attractive woman working a regular job that doesn't pay well. She may have a child and the extra cash really helps. Most escorts are attractive or pretty, though I will say that some real beauties do escort on the side and a typical conversation about a model / actress is "Does she provide?" Many do and they do it for money. Think of that when watching the telly. Fifth, escorts are not drawn to the profession by big cocks. Most don't like very large cocks. A very large cock can hurt and when she doesn't know the man well she can't relax. Many refuse "engagements" with very large men and it's rare to find an escort who'll put anal "on the menu" for such a man. Most escorts do not do anal at all and their tastes in cock size mirror the regular population. They also insist on condoms and cleanliness and many only offer blow jobs with a condom, which is called "covered."

Are we even reading the same story?<p>

Sure, the author's description of MPD and how it's supposedly manifesting itself in Myr is unrealistic. Sure, the husband's behavior is also unrealistic, especially in the way he's dying to hear Myr's story and yet he constantly aborts the mission at the drop of a hat. Yes, I'm getting tired of his little hissy fits. Every time she tries to say something to him his first reaction is to blow her off and get up and walk away in a huff, like a spoiled, petulant bitch.<p>

Like a child, actually.<p>

You don't go through all this pain just to blow her off. You'd sit there and let her speak her peace. You might get frustrated and you might try to move the discussion along but you wouldn't fly across the country just to keep abandoning the discussion at the first roadblock you encounter.<p>

So, yeah, some of her depictions are way off base. That being said, c'mon, there's no way in hell to call something this well written and this creative and compelling a complete failure. "0" scores are reserved for poorly written and poorly conceived garbage. "0" scores are reserved for horribly cliched stories of white women willingly allowing themselves to be gang raped by hordes of animalistic black men with 12" cocks, whereby the formerly sweet and faithful wives suddenly abandon everything they've ever been to become whores for comically huge black cocks. Oh, and the story is also poorly written.<p>

That's a garbage story, with no redeeming qualities. That's a "0" score.<p>

If you don't like the subject matter and the behavior of Angi's characters then don't continue to read and vote on her stories. That's just stupid. By this point in the story you know going in what you're going to get so to give a "0" score to such well written work goes beyond stupid. It strikes of masochism and it's also petty, vindictive, shallow and fairly transparent too.<p>

Her stories are so well written that there's no way she can receive less than a "50"; no way. One might withhold the rest of the score due to her narrative errors and other flaws in the content but that's about it. You simply cannot give a "0" score to chapter five of something so compelling that you're still here dissecting it and complaining about it. If nothing else the story has captured your imagination. It's got you fully involved. People, that is not a "0" story.<p>

Now, as to the story itself, hell, I can believe a lot of it. I know for a fact that many men, myself included, would put themselves through hell for a women they love. This man obviously loves this woman. Many men would do the most blindingly stupid and self destructive things imaginable just to hold onto the chance of keeping that love alive. I can easily believe this man would want to salvage her, because he wants to salvage them.<p>

Love and hate are very closely tied. They swap back and forth very easily. That's where this man is with this woman. He can't just walk away and forget about her and move on because he still hates her...and he still loves her. He won't be able to do what most people here are saying he should do because he doesn't feel apathy towards her. She still rules his heart and most of his mind. He still lives there so he can't walk away, even though it would be in his best interests to do so.<p>

Let's face it, crazy bitches are hot and this one is exceptionally hot. Also, we all think we can save the ones we love. We also all want to believe and even believe in the ones we love. That misguided belief and the optimism that comes with it often leads to unimaginable stupidity.<p>

Hell, by definition being in love involves unimaginable stupidity. It's at least partly a suspension of disbelief. It's also what makes the world go 'round and people far dumber than this guy have stood by women who were far more evil and far more fucked up than this woman.<p>

This is a flawed story, definitely, but it's also a brilliant story. It has all of us commenting on it. It has us all involved, whether we love it or hate it. That's brilliance.<p>

That's certainly not a "0". Christ.

At least for many of our commentators. The fact that the

story does not match social, sexual or psychological models believed by the critics, does not make it in itself a good or bad story. She does write well and she does hold our attention. In fact I remember some of her earlier heroes (victims??) and that is proof to me of her power.

Thank you for putting up with us, Angel!

Wish I knew more about the mind. Will the resolution involve a mixing of the two personalities? Will this new person be as loved as the original wife? So many questions. Great read.

As a first calibre research psychologist/neurologist (from whom I had taken too classes), at the University of California, Ramachandra shared with us (who're fortunate enough to take some of his classes) many interesting cases where humans didn't recognize some parts of their bodies ---- an arm, a leg, or one whole side of them. <p>

These patients who rejected those limbs and other bodily parts by saying they're not theirs, even though those parts were a part of them and still obey nerve commands from the brains. <p>

More often than not, those patients became such interesting cases due to some bodily traumas they've suffered, mostly to parts of the brains controlling internal-part recognition. Remember, those "rejected" bodily limbs or parts of those patients still worked; they patients simply said they (the limbs) were not theirs. <p>

The problem --- such classes of general problem --- has to do with neuro-psychological disorder. <p>

It is true that rape can be devastating to the victims, both mentally and psychologically. <p>

But to go from there to Angisophique's Myriam and Estelle's nonsense ---- yeah, we KNOW it's only silly fiction [which, by the way, is meant to be BELIEVABLE!!!) ---- where Estelle and Myriam have been, all these years, having well-thought out and intellectual soliloquies on victim (Myriam) and guardian (Estelle) regarding Bruce as well as men in general,,, all those years Bruce and Myriam were married,,, after the divorce and NOW.....??? <p>

This so-called multiple personality disorder.... that is just total gibberish nonsense. <p>

We don't know much about the many disorders --- psychological, physical, and mental (or a combination thereof) --- that is true enough; but what we know beyond doubt is this: <p>

People with actue mental/physical/psychological disorders do NOT function in general societal situations. From the seriously delusional but for the most part non-dangerous to the extreme psychopathic.... they just CAN NOT function in society. Like Angiesophique portrayed Myriam here (not to say any thing about her imaginary friend and "guardian" Estelle). <p>

In FICTIONAL writing, there are two main ingredients, among others, that must be kept in mind: CREATIVITY and BELIEVABILITY. <p>

When an author tells a story about some little "Buddha boy" who could survive months and years in the jungles with NOT only little or no food but also his clothes/robes clean as a whistle, the author can't blame the audience as being ignorant of having little minds... Things just don't happen like that, no matter how much you invoke some sense of mysteriousness...

I have to agree with "Anonymous in USA" on the fact that reading the comments has been just as much fun as reading the story.

Once again kudos angiquesophie on a great story. Keep em coming. :)

Hide the trophies the next time Estelle comes to visit!

I fear we B headed for a full blown wimp out!

A well crafted story that explores some truly dark places. I'm loving it!

Looks like you had two very good story lines, but mixed them up. It gives it the feel of a cheating escape like you saw in the old serials. You see the hero fall off a cliff and head towards the rocky bottom, but in the next episode they show him grabbing a branch that would have been impossible from the initial trijectory. Maybe you can save this story, but this wild tangent isn't working for me. Let's go on.

getting stupid. A bunch of psycho babble just to say its not my fault.

Well, but painfully, told!

yeah people may be sick like this, and she may be a full time whore on the side, where are the medical treatments for the diseases she would have acquired. Where is his testing for STDs. Why is he so stupid to keep coming back to a worthless piece of trash? And why isn't she committed to a mental institution? You picture the ex-husband as mentally ill as the whore.

Full of twists and turns. It comes across as so authentic. Still a favorite. Still love it. Still five stars.

Ok, one of the absolute worst pieces of shit I've ever attempted to read. WOW.

Thanks for sharing.

all discovery is not always in ones best interest, TK U MLJ LV NV

a new reason to add to the cheaters excuses manual ..... dual personality disorder or in short BULL SHIT

Confusing, but interesting.

Hopefully the three of them will marry and live strangely ever after.

Top notch writing. Incredibly exciting !

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