All Comments on 'What I Don't Understand'

Goldeniangel. What you may not have realized is that many readers send you feedback because that is the part of the process they really enjoy. They read the stories, sure, but bashing the writer is the real payoff.

I was also curious about your assertion that "Loving Wives" is really "Adulterous Wives". The caption on the main stories page is "Tales of adventurous married women & their mates." Does adventurous mean only sex outside of marriage?

This is really a question on my part, I must have missed the fuller definition you imply.

I haven't written for quite some time but when I was active, I wrote Because I was having a blast! I needed no other reason to put in the time and effort, and you are quite right it is extremely hard to put into words some of your most intimate fantisies regardless of the category they slot into. The story I most enjoyed writting recieved the lowest ratings of all but generated the most feedback, Go figure. Do it because it's fun for you. I would recommend allowing through only that feedback were it's author has to leave their name. It should cut down on the "snipers" that leave nasty comments under the cover of the anonymous moniker they're just hit and run artist without the guts to offer anything constructiveor helpful. Screw-em, nobody needs the jerks!

…some are just wrong! I agree in essence with your "letter" and one should not criticize what they can't do; you must ignore the non-constructive opinions and focus on the constructive and appreciative ones instead. I have read many of your stories most are between 4 and 5. If I do not like a particular subject (not the story) I do not vote.

You are quite a prolific writer! Please keep on writing and don't let the few ruin it for the rest!

No one would write any thing if they knew with certitude no one else would ever read it.

Try it: Try spend 2 hours, 5 days, 5 months, or 2 years on a fiction or novel and revise it time and again and then throw it into the fire; and then start all over again; and repeat the same thing.

Th reason we write is because we want to communicate our ideas to others. When a lot of people are making "heated" remarks --- pros and cons --- it is when we've struck some deep chord in them.

To respond specifically to the author of this piece: I, for example, am not interested in BDSM or whatever that is, as well as "non-consent", which means, I guess, RAPING men, women, and children? Isn't that what non-consent means?

If it is PLAY non-consenting game only than it is fetish and masochism, right? It hurts and it humiliates, but the players know, within reason, they will not be mentally or physically damaged, right?

But since I'm not interested in reading about licking exrement, or pricking someone and licking their blood, or

licking someone's sweat, or tying women and men to beds or other solids/swings, and pull on their genitals, or snatching a woman or man from the mall and raping her in a basement or van ---- you can say they are all "fiction" and "another form of eroticism" but I will NOT read it. Such don't interest me.

Since I don't read such genres, I don't bitch! Won't know what to bitch specifically, would I?!

But the genres that I like to read more about --- of course I'm gonna bitch if the author comes across idiotic. At least put a sentence or two at the beginning; something like, "This has to do with men/husbands who love to suck cum from their loving wives when the latter get home from fresh love-makings with multiple partners [ie. no showers at the motel yet]," or something!

Such a short and kind gesture on the AUTHOR's part would be greatly appreciated. Those who don't want to spend 2, 10 or 30 minutes on stories that at the end turn them off in nauseating ways won't have to read them to start with! No btiching, in short, if such clear identification is made.

So the argument of "don't read it if you know you're not going to like it" is a rather flawed one.

AS a constant browser of the LOVING WIVES section I can guess that the wimp vs. revenge story' feedback is the most intense and most vicious. Yes -PLEASE tell us Revenge Lovers up front that this is a "Husband eats ocean of shit story" and we'll move on.

All of us married men do wonder what our reaction would be if we caught our wives taking it up the butt from some guy. 90 % of all guys would divorce her on the spot. Yet the actual story numbers of wimp husband stories is at least 900% weighted to the wimp stories. Us Revenge Guys want more stories showing our side or what we would call being closest to reality. If I have been tricked by a 4-6 part story and had to wait until almost the end to see if the husband will be a wimp or man- and then it's almost always a wimp -then I'm pissed.

We Revenge Guys do not like feeling that we could ever be wimp husbands. You wimp husband writer folks stir up ego-threatening storms that disturb us. I'm thinking of writing a story where the husband punches out his cheating wife IN PUBLIC -and gets away with it!! Good Idea???

OH Yeah, thanks for writing your essay and provoking me to reply.

The best works of art have prompted the worst public outcry, so rock on. Imagine the impact your stories have had on those folks; they took the time to leave impassioned feedback about your work. It's interesting to think that people who truly dislike something are usually more emotional about it than those who support it. While I haven't yet read any of you other submissions, I have to think they're good if they're prompting this type of response.

i agreed, more or less, with what you said in your essay. the more you dragged it out it started to sound like a pitty party for yourself, though. simply put, if your going to allow yourself to be exposed to the world in a public forum, your just going to have to learn to cope (ignore) the true assholes.

i spend a lot of time here reading, occasionally leaving a comment, and i try to be polite but honest in what i say. i have seen some readers write incredibly hurtful comments,which were obviously composed in a manner to be exactly that,hurtful.i'm sure the receiving writer has a stronger view than i (you sure do!!) about this nastiness,but after i get over my own anger at how one person treats another i start to feel sad for that reader. i often wonder whats missing or what happened in this persons life to make such poor comments on something that in the end isn't really important at all (sorry). i shutter to think that this type of reacting is how he/she lives all aspects of their life.

where you really blew it in your essay as far as i'm concerned is when you make your 'rebuttal' comment.

*cough*

previous commenter would be EXACTLY what i'm talkinga bout.

your acknowledging what he said is more or less accurate and then complaining that he said it !! huh? and i have to tell you i view his comments as a mild slap of your hand and your reaction as a child sitting in her room pouting.

if you just needed to get all this off your chest i hope it worked.posting this as an essay will overall give you a gentler reponse. thats the good and bad news. bad because the people who your focusing on won't bother to read an essay!! lol. you won't cure these people so just ignore them. remember that old childhood rhyme about ' sticks and stones'. these comment can only hurt you if you let them.

good luck and keep writing,

don

while i have never read any of your submissions, i feel that you are totally justified in condemning those that would dissaprove of your ideas and fantasies. it is true that if you do not wish to read that type of fantasy then you won't. perhaps the people that are being so critical of your sexual preference are in denial and secretly harbor the same feelings as yourself. this explains how their fingers take them to the place they long to be, but dare not go in reality.

i would also like to add that although you may not have been a published author, this does not in any way mean that you are not a writer. some people measure success on others opinions, personally i think that this is a very weak trait. at the end of the day, if you feel your story was written exactly the way you pictured it and you are happy with that, then fuck the minority who make themselves feel good by trying to make you feel bad.

Writing fiction is hard. I haven't put anything on board for 2 reasons: 1, I don't remember my password & can't post even this criticism here under my banner (I will sign it below) 2, I don't think I can equal the sex scenes that the good writers have written & I wonder about creating believable dialogue. If I get my password, maybe I'll take a stab at something.

The interracial stories: Many, many, many of them seem to go out of their way to insult white males. Maybe there are others where the black male is the underdog & being victimized but a lot are just about ugly ghetto-mentality people that are on a power-ego trip( and being the victim of past deprivation doesn't give nastiness a license) and fucking white women is really gratifying. Yes, I will apologize to any decent black guy who is just trying to enjoy life & get ahead like any white, Asian, Native American or Hispanic guy, but I will not apologize to boneheads (of either sex) whose stories are racist---& don't give me that bit that blacks can't be racist. Stupidity & Ugliness are Equal Opportunity Qualities. And none of those stories come anywhere near Richard Wright, Ishmael Reed, playwright August Wilson or anyone remotely of that quality.

Loving Wives: There are three major type of story here: 1,The wife-sharing story---swinging & banging like a saloon door. 2, the wimp story where the husband is humiliated 3, the revenge story with electronic cameras, etc., a team, or at least one, lawyer in the wings ready to collect their(his/her)commission, the caught and now bawling (instead of balling) wife asking for forgiveness, and the perpetrator with his nuts just whacked with a baseball bat---he now has a squeaky voice---or lying out on some nightclub parking lot,a bullet in his brain. Wrong. I neglected all the stories told by the woman's point of view. I guess I don't read them religiously because I don't identify with them.

Yes, there have been grunts and sneers that masquerade as comments on these stories. The situations in these stories touch raw nerves. It would be good for people to feign a civilized comment even if they disagree with the author's viewpoint & premise. I find the wimp cuckold stories anathema. I like, if possible, reconciliation in the revenge stories but it depends on the characters & the situations. What I really like are surprises in the plots. These stories are formula-based but if the author can get you to really sympathize with and take an interest in a character's fortune, or misfortune, or if the plotting is as good as an O'Henry story, then the story is a success regardless of the author's de facto philosophy. I think intelligent readers would like some real life similitude. Oh yeah, there are those who just want their stories dripping with sex. The consentual sharing stories are the only stories capable of having unadulterated sex with their adultery. The other types have some perverse emotion---be it anger, disgust, shock, humiliation---mixed in. Nobody in their right mind---in their right mind?---is going to be wanking off in the Loving Wives area. Maybe anger or humilition gets you off, but that is a sad state of affairs for humanity as a whole.

Non-consentual sex: Does this type of story attract the Future Rapists of America, Australia, Great Britain? A good story can be constructed from the material inherent in this plot but the glorification of a rapist isn't actually one of the better promotions in the world of real sexual relations. If the tale is descriptive in the emotions causing and caused by rape, by society's action or inaction---no, that is too sophisticated for most of the tales here. This genre can be like the slasher movies, except that cocks are used instead of knives. I'm not drawn to getting into this category.

Mind Control and Sci-Fi and Fantasy worlds: Here the settings & plots can get interesting

Erotic Horror: Ditto---as long as we don't get into the Marquis de Sade mentality, though his work is considered classic in some circles. Sade's amateur followers are not in the same league---they are more into the verbal equivalent of the C Movie "Blood-sucking Freaks" (heavy w/pigs'blood). However, Horror stories do have possibilities, because the settings and plot twists are limited only by the author's imagination.

Erotic Couplings, the First Time, Mature(eh? maybe), and other sexual stances and positions can be very erotic depending on which way your wind blows. These stories have the potential to set hands in action.

Romance & Non-erotic stories are more concerned with feelings and psychology than tremors on the Masters and Johnson scale.

Bottom lines for good fiction are the story development & plot innovations. The readers? The audience here probaly follows a Bell Curve---on the left the certifiably depraved. On the right a second cousin to Jerry Falwell( to use a once litigious name). Stupid comments will be continued to be grunted in typed words. Insulting stories will continue to be written and those that don't like them will flush their memory down the toilet. Sexually exciting & inciting material will continue to fan flames in bedrooms all over America, Australia, Great Britain and, we can't forget, India.

I'd like to see people show each other more respect around here but look at your newspaper headlines. It ain't going to happen.

playingcardcompany

Because there are still some stories about LOVING WIVES. Some author's tell you at the begining of the story that it's a cuckold story and if hate this type of story than to stop reading it. So i do stop reading it.THANKS to author's that do that.Not all stories are about some whore wife that fucks around, or some sick,wimpy,cuckold bastard that likes or needs to watch his wife get fucked. There are also stories where a man is a man and does what about 90% of men would really do if they found out or caught their wives fucking around. I say about 90% because their are a few that forgive and than of course their are those few sick fucks that get turned on. People in the lifestyle always say that their marriage and sex life is great, but if its great than why do you go into the lifestyle. Think about who brought up the idea of the lifestyle. Now why would your wife/husband even bring it up if they were as happy as they say they were with your marriage and sex life. In my opinion, because there not happy with one or both.On the other hand they were or are cheating on you.Think about it.

Don't let the nay sayers get you down. Remember they must live in their own sad little world all the time, but are only able to share their bile with others occasionally.

To anonimous USA read the title of this site its all about literate erotica. The sale of toys I suspicion is simply to keep the doors open if you will.

Had some of the same insane comments about my writings. You have a lot of time to write and I have enjoyed reading the ones I have read. To hell with the "turkeys" who write us comments they aren't man enough to sign. If they were real men or women they would be getting off on our stories they would be living their own. I plan to write more about my wife's adventures as I have time. Enjoying our adventures made me realize some of these stories are true.

Rave on.

Olsalt.

in the real world you got good and bad,some like reading about wimpy husband and some don't.people feel strongly about what they believe in as you write about what you belive in.some crap go thru this site and some good writing go thru too.see the crap sometime make it bad for the good writings.on a hold the good readers with do good by the writers.i'm not good at writing,but i admire the people who write and tell their stories some good and some bad.the equal median of good and bad readers are like the same with writers.a pen is dangerous thing in the wrong hands,people sometime believe everything they read.so somethings need bad grades to let the writer know that not cool.i hope this help, from a reader.thanks and put good writing and stories on the site.

I have often found myself thinking many of these same thoughts when, eh, shall we say, those readers with dimished social skills, read and send in comments.

Personally, if a story doesn't do much for me or contains certain areas of eroticism that just aren't my thing, I simply quit reading it and move on. Sheesh! What is so hard about that?

My only complaint about some authors is their lack of proper use of the English (American version) language. But, I don't feel it is my place to correct them. As above, just move along suits me fine.

Anyway... better stop this monotonous monologue.

P.S. I didn't use a spell checker or language checker for this, so other commenters, please no corrective suggestions!

I intentionally go to read stories and give them a lousy vote just to piss off authours that think the site is all about them. Who do you think the site owners like better, an author that doesn't want many of the readers to read their stories or a reader that is there and sometimes clicks on the links that cause the site owners to make money(ie..I bought a couple sex toys thru this site) I'm sure that you have done nothing else with this site other than clutter it with your dribble.

If the owners had to pick authors like you or readers like me, who do you think they would pick.

*cough*

previous commenter would be EXACTLY what i'm talkinga bout.

just WHERE did i claim that i'm a "Great Writer"... um, no where. they just wanted to justify an attack, but they have no basis to. yeah, i write nasty little stories, and some people do enjoy them... so? you're OBVIOUSLY reading those "nasty" stories because in SOME way YOU enjoy them... explain that to me.

cuz that's kinda my point... sorry that you missed it. obviously, you were too busy looking for something that you could find wrong with me... which is also my point.

You're taking yourself and this little erotic story site way too seriously...

You don't write books for a living... you write little nasty stories that people get off on... well... at least if they're written decently...

There are stories on this site that are garbage and when I read them I don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong by saying so...

So don't put yourself up there with the great authors of all time... because you aren't and you aren't going to get that kind of respect... nor do you deserve it...

Reluctantly I find myself having to agree with Goldeniangel. I enjoy receiving feeback, even negative believe it or not, by why can't people who post it exercise even a modicum of politeness! I'm sure they don't realise how hurtful such feedback can be. We bare our souls (well our fantasies anyway) and a virulent attack (and some feedback is) is unhelpful and rude.

People say "It takes all kinds". I disagree, it doesn't take all kinds, but unfortunately we have all kinds.

The only answer is ignoring them.

You expressed my sentiments perfectly. I don't understand readers who are disgusted by a story that they apparently wasted half an hour of their life reading. Would they be the same people happy to have the government censor everything that they could read or see so that they won't be offended accidentally?

Keep writing, keep offending, keep pleasing, that's what it is all about!!

The really severe trolls have extremely low self esteem and no real way to build some.

So they take the standard human action of tearing at the self esteem of others. "If I can't feel good about myself," they rationalise, "I can at least make others feel worse."

And they're feeding their addictions. As you noted many of the trolls are hateful and angry. These two emotions are highly addictive.

By reading stories that trigger these emotions, they are getting their hit.

Granted I'm not as prolific as you (but I'm working on that) however on my first (and to date only story on this site) I have received both good and bad feedback. Feedback I don't mind, it's the blatent BASHING that gets on my nerves. I'm writing a romance in the novel/novella section and I get bashed by cowards who haven't the stones to leave a name. It takes a tremendous investment in time and energy(not to mention ego) to put a work out there for people to read. If they like it or not we want to know. Mine got the lable of trash and garbage by several people who never read past the first chapter. I have read many of your stories and you are part of the inspiation to write. Please continue and do not let the ravings of cowards detract from the enjoyment you get from writing.

Landrious1

and wish to express it publicly, then do it. On this site you'll pick up comments from some of the scum on this earth - wierdos, sickos, thickos and goodness knows what else. But arising through those self, mansturbating dicks of both sexes, you will find - if you write well enough - some very encouraging, thoughtful and helpful comments that will serve to encourage and strenghen you. Just believe me - this is a weird site. But do not despair or lose momentum - if you believe you have got it, flaunt it. I as a moderately prolific contributor to the site have been both flattered and challenged by the comments of some respondents whom I sense have something intellectual between their ears, unlike the scum. Just think of it as a ship - the Captain (educated and competent, usually), in command, supported by fellow officers, a mixed bag of a crew, some more literate than me and perhaps you, and below them are the rats. Focus on the captain the the men who support him (or her) that get the ship away from port and home again, mission completed. Sorry about the flowery way of presenting this - I've just sunk a bottle of NZ beautiful Hawkes Bay Chardonnay, opened the portal and saw you crying, in need of support. Write, and write well, rising to new heights and bury the scum. Gosh, I feel empowered writing this. I'm off to start a new submission. Good luck, Goldeniangel.

2 prolific?) author or so it seems. Venting appears to be ok for you, so why do you attempt to bash those who take the time to read you?

Has it occured to you that without readers this site wouldn't - couldn't exist. As for anon. is the name on your drivers licence your chosen authors name? We are all anon. and thats good isn't it! For all you know, I may have written more stories than you so that doesn't wash does it?

Venting is good isn't it - I already feel better don't you?

Look, I'm proud of your guts to be in the Kitchen but if it occasionally gets too hot - get out before it hurts you emotionally. All the cliche's apply - nobody can please all the people all the time, nobody every hits 1000 or catches every pass or etc..

However, if the complaints are consistant on a theme or style or subject - if you aren't pleasing your customers more often than not, why are you interested in the pain that you serve up knowingly to yourself?

I know you are not a black hole author like some here who don't care who they constantly deal pain and frustration to - you have strong talent - I would like to see you occasionally write less but longer stories you could get you teeth into - flount your talent a little. There is little challenge for you doing what you currently do.

Lighten up - toughen up as I know you will - no more whining - you are a big girl aren't you? with Regard