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Iluv2rdIluv2rdover 11 years ago
Surprise!!!

I just came to see if there were any updates and found this. Again, a great chapter. Keep it up!!!!!

Gene: Awe - I knew he had it in him.

That there Barb: When is Thorn going to find out? That is going to be priceless. I think the baby is working on her, she was able to see something (Louise drinking the blood). Very interesting.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago

Congrats for you and your daughter!

Okay so I won't rant this chapter...okay a little but I won't try to leave super long review about it 'kay. :D

Alright I'm super excited for Louise and Barb for the impending motherhood.

I really happy for Louise and Nathan and even found myself grinning at the part about the heartbeat. That was really cute.

Okay was not expecting Nadine to be Hans daughter but that would really explain why Barb treatin her like she did pissed Hans off. It all makes sense now. Leon and Nadine interesting pair not bad interesting but it makes you think how their relationship will evolve.

Okay I'm still team Barb all day. Though I did get a little annoyed when she was thinking about her baby. I'm super happy she's not getting an abortion and even thinking about her mom. I'm worried even if this is early in her pregnancy she has to start thinking about doctor visits and prenatal vitamins. With that thought in mind If she goes to a regular doctor won't they notice that this child might not be normal. Lol if they think Barb is bad now just what till her hormones are all over the place. She wasn't in this one as much as the previous chapter is she making her self scarce? I hope not she's my favorite character and even if she doesn't get her own story(which I totally hopes she does.) I don't want her to disappear.. well unless she's having more character development. I have to agree with Patrick on Barb changing I wouldn't want her to be like either Louise,Kevyn, or Juliette. She has her own personailty that sat her a part and that's why I liked her from the beginning. Can she use some character development? Yes I like when Barb has sweet momemt but I wouldn't want her to be a sugary sweet character with not bite. I don't know if I'm making any sense or not lol. I just want some more Barb time!

bananamilkubananamilkuover 11 years ago
Barb a single mom?

Okay quick question. When is Thorne going to find out?

Hope it's not like Kane...when the child is 5. That would be sad since Thorne is kind of a prick and might try to take the poor child away. I also believe Barb might be one of those moms that don't really get attracted until the baby is born. My sister was that way. Hopefully the baby will give her that live that she's not getting from anyone else. Good things about babies they love unconditionally with no strings attracted. This might also help her see that if she had both parents in the household and her family was struggling that being a single mom with a little would that is soley dependent on you would cause her to really step up.

Lol I really wish the best for Barb and the baby.

donaldedonaldeover 11 years ago
one of your best chapter ever

first of all congrats to your daughter on her wedding. I hope you are enjoying your vacation

Now for the story boy is their a list this chapter lets get done with Barb.I can not wait to see her deal with changing diapers and if the baby is a vampire the blood thing she will die.

I like how Hans is working things out with Juliette they will be good for each other. I am glad that the kids and him are getting along also.

Leon i have to agree with Nathan he is an honorable and decent man. I can't wait to see how he reacts to the news about what Nadine being a vampire it should be interesting.

Lastly Gene i guess we can temporarily take him off of the milk carton list pending on how sincere his change is. I do not think that Patrick will be as surprised about the revelation of Gene's involvement with Clay as Leon thinks he will be. I do suspect while Kevyn will be upset with Gene she will still forgive and support him. I hope Gene does continue with his road to redemption and does find happiness he has shown flashes here there of being a decent person and a good man i just hope he rises to his potential if not the milk carton is still waiting

excellent work Kala. i can hardly wait to thing settle down to be able to read your next offering

Nala6Nala6over 11 years ago
High Five Sister

I can only speak for myself but I am sure others feel this way also. I tear through each chapter and at the end I'm like give me more. Ahh why does it have to be so short of a chapter, when I know good and well that is not. I have no patience and no shame so bring on the next one.

Cheers

AfrolatinaAfrolatinaover 11 years ago
Barb and Thored

I have to say that I have become addicted to Louise, I wait every week for the next chapter.

My question is when is Thored coming back to Barb's life, can you please scare the bitch out Barb.

Love your writting.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
I Love This!!!!!

I am like a fiend with this story. I just love it. Barb is interesting. I am not hating her like I was, but she definitely needs Thorne and Louise in her life. They are the only ones who tell her the truth. Thorne was an asshole about it, and Louise is the one she will miss if Louise decides she does not love/like her sister. Barb wants to figure out how she can use the baby to her advantage. Well that speaks negative volumes about her and I am trying to find a way of understanding her feelings of abuse. Why is it that the 2 eldest siblings in this family feel like their growing up reality was negative/abusive? Well Gene realizes he was not abused but he definitely did not rise to the responsible teachings of his father. Barb is just someone I do not get. She makes you tired. Wanting something from nothing never leads to anything good. I want her and her baby to be well. I do not think Thorne will try to take the baby away from her, I do think he will insist that the baby stay with him because he does not like the person that she is and she will use that to live with the wealthy. I think it will bother her eventually that only the baby is cared for. I think that she will have to interact with Thorne's family and if she so much as blinks wrong to his little brother, baby or not Thorne will take her head off. Do I want Barb to be well? Yes I do, but I don't think Barb wants to be well if that makes any sense. I think she will have all the monetary benefits of Thorne's name but she will discover that she is not happy. When she is feeling happy she turns into super bitch as if being happy is a weakness to be destroyed. Maybe something happened to Barb as a child and we don't know about it. But as an adult, she makes some choices that are just not meant for peace of mind. But as I said in another long comment, we have read about reformed rapists but Barb gives me pause. These vampires have lived hundreds of years, I get that they have had a lot of time to regret their upbringing and adult actions and Barb is human and has not lived as long so her living to grow out of a vile behavior pattern may take more time, but I want to find out what makes her the way she is and maybe she can find her own peace as well. Her baby may save her. I think her baby may communicate with Celeste and Noel. Both her niece and Thorne's brother seem sensitive enough to feel that baby. They may not understand all of it but I feel there is a strength in Noel that no one knows of and I feel the same about Celeste. Barb is aware, but she ignores her gift. That thing about ignoring a gift can make that gift disappear. Barb may need to know when her baby is in danger. I believe her baby is in danger, I am just not sure of what. Thorne has issues but he knows love. He hates the Sinclaire's but I really believe it has more to do with his father or his inability to protect his siblings. And he might be a little envious. Funny that he did not do to Barb, what Barb did to Hans. Hmmmmm. If it is that simple, then why reprimand your partner in crime to do more dirty deeds? Does he think he deserves a mate that seemingly is a hateful person? Hmmmm? Thorne could have denied her, seemingly he still can, but the baby will be a interesting factor to consider. Barb is not going to like the reality of rich loneliness. She is already lonely because of her own choices. The reality that I could have what I want and people do not like me, is going to bother her. It bothers her already that folks don't like her. It hurts her feelings when Jonsey told her about herself, It hurt her feelings when Hans ignored her existence. This will be interesting. I want her to be well. I am just not sure what well is for her. Leon is fun and I think all will be well. Gene is growing and I like that. I cannot wait for more of this story. I am still feeling that Joseph, Celeste, Thorne's little brother, and Louise are going to have a lot going on in the future. THIS IS SOOOO GOOOD!!!!!

CONGRATS TO YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER!!! WISHING YOU PEACE LOVE AND ALL GOOD THINGS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME:)

MizTMizTover 11 years ago
The Family

With both Juliette and Leon finding their mates the family has become not only bigger but closer. Now we just have to wait for Leon to find out the "big secret" from his mate. As for Gene, I think he will need some time to find himself and more important he will need to stay clear of Kev and her husband for a few hundred years after he makes his confession. And Barb...well she has a mate she just hates him I think worse than she hates her family. I'm looking forward to watching the family come together and in the end I think (hope rather) that everyone will he happy. I know I'm such a romantic....

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
no offense but....

I feel your taking on to many characters p.o.vs I know that can be difficult so try to slow down a bit. Otherwise ! Great story! I'm looking forward to barbs p.o.vs. everyone else's aren't as entertaining because we have felt we've kinda read it before. U know? Where as barbs we have not.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
Barb

hi love this chapter again, but one question? seeing how barb is soo angry with everyone wont she put all this hatred on her kid n bring him or her like her?I hope thorne find out soon. I think Hans should tell Julliet the truth about Barbs being his mate

katgoddess1katgoddess1over 11 years ago
Great story

I hang on every word and check for new chapters daily. Good grief, I sound like an addict!

brownskinnedcutiebrownskinnedcutieover 11 years ago
Wonderfully awesome chapter

I am so glad that Gene has seen the error of his ways with a nudge from Nathan. Barb is just inherently evil and I don't believe that she can change. Congratulations on your daughters upcoming nuptials.

IndianPrincess2IndianPrincess2over 11 years ago
Thanks

I was so looking forward to this update and as usual you did not disappoint it was a great chapter and I really enjoyed reading it. So happy that Gene finally broke down and gave his sister a sincere apology now I hope that things work out when he and Leon go see Kev and he tells her everything and ask for her forgiveness of why he's been acting that way towards her and what he almost done to her I know its not gonna be easy but at least he's finally gonna do it and step up to the plate and be the man his day always wanted him to be. I'm looking forward to your next update can't wait to see what will happen soon with everyone so please update real soon when you get another brief moment thanks!

Iread2relaxIread2relaxover 11 years ago
Awesome

Just got a chance to say. This is good. Love it. Next chapter please. IR2R

MimiRoseMimiRoseover 11 years ago
I Am Glad...

... That you are focusing on Louise and Nathan for this chapter. I am getting tired of reading Barb's "Why me...?" So having a chapter that was mostly Barb-free was a breath of fresh air.

Still trying to figure out who's the villian for this story though. Ever since there hasn't been any "Thorne" mentionings, I am going to assume that it is Barb. Just get her started on her dastardly villian deeds already... (mumbling quickly) So, the #teamBarb brigade can stop declaring their teambarbie-ness.

I find it interesting how (judging from the comments) readers seem to be taking this story to heart, which is a great thing for a writer.

I'm not going to tell you how you should write your story. And I think I don't need to because it is a great one.

Congratulations for your daughter's upcoming nuptials!

@Hate It!: O_o ... Chile please!

Elmo533Elmo533over 11 years ago
No more Barb!

What an annoying miserable person. Love the focus on Nathan, the baby, and Louise. @Hate It---I get the feeling that you can relate to Barb, but it's just a story. Calm down.

fluerfluerover 11 years ago
GREAT CHAPTER!!!

Kal, you are amazing. For the first time I felt compassion for Gene. He is tuely trying to make amends for his past misdeeds. I never realize his alcholism was a mask to conceal his fear of failure. Now that is something we can all relate to. I respect that went to Leon; an open his heart and laid bare his raw emotions. He did not try to conceal or justify his action in planning to kill Kevyn. Whats more, he is willing to go to Kevyn and tell her the truth and ask for forgivness.

As to Barb, I'm glad she will not kill her baby. However, I am still guarded when it comes to her. To blame the baby for her own selfishness, worries me. Barb has always peaked my intrest. She is what I categorIze as the " I Want Person". She is envious of all around her. What she fails to see is that Kevyn and Louise got the men they desired and wanted by being genuine. Barb is all about appearences. Until she can learn to be greatful and compassioante she will always be on the outside looking in.

Futhermore the Yancey blood line is somewhat of a mystery. Why do they have these gifts? It did not go unnotice to me that Barb had a preminition of Louise drinking blood. Once Barb pregnancy becomes a known factor; how will this effect the Sinclare family? Someone will have to tell her her baby maybe a vamp. Then there is Leon. I wonder what his talent maybe. It seems the Yancey women so-far are the gifted,

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#teambarb all day!

Good story and very descriptive. I'm proud of Gene for finally seeing the error of his ways.

Given how Patrick is a reformed serial rapist and Nathan is the product of rape, both aren't in positions to judge Gene or anyone on morality, integrity, and honor. I actually laughed out Lloyd at how both are arrogant given their rape legacy.

Like the other poster wrote, Louise the Disney Princess is a bit boring and wasn't enthralled by her. Frankly her story seems to of come to an end because what else is there left for Louise to go character-wife?

Congrats to Juliette and Leon for their new lives as well.

Lastly but not least, BARB!! I agree 100% with HateIt because Barb is quite strong, flawed, & wants what her sisters and now brother has. I enjoy her because she has an edge and she's trying to survive and strive got what she wants. At least she's not a rapist or enabling one like her sisters. I look forward to her evolution hopefully soon.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
seriously

There are several things that I would like to comment on. First the rapes. The Sinclair's have never expressed pride at what they were and did. They publicized it and took steps to stop it. Not only that, they keep telling the story to each new mate and child that cones along.

Now Barb. Strong? She went to California under false pretenses. She said that she wanted to spend time with her sister's which was a lie. She tried to take Herr sisters man, went home with a man because He was rich, slept notvonly with him but his friend.

She treated no one with respect including herself and now she's pregnant. Is she looking at her priorities? Sure she is... she

remains first. She blames a baby for what happened but she is the one responsible.

As of the lsdt chapter that shrugs was in, she was thinking of how to use the baby. How does this make her a strong woman? Imo it makes her a cold bitch. Can she change? Of course she can but the question bis does she want to?

Someone said that Louise is boring and too sweet. I think that further to overtaken care of her mother and to adapt to a new life makes her a strong woman. Her empathy and compassion only add to that strength. She loves Barb and her siblings abducted instead being angry, she forgives and moves on. Her story is that of peacemaker and family glue.

Believe it or not, there are people in the world like barb and the rest of them... they're what keep things interesting.

MimiRoseMimiRoseover 11 years ago
@Anonymous 9/14/12 a.k.a. The comment below vvvvvvv

Thank you for your comment about the Sinclaires and their histories of rape. I've been been trying to conjure up the correct diction to express how I feel about that situation. I've read each Sinclaire tale and I (thanks to Kal's writing) felt the struggles in each Sinclaire's struggle. It wasn't like "He was a rapist. And he is a vampire. But he is cute, rich and has a big dick! All is forgiven! Happy happy joy joy!" It's not like the Sinclaires are not suffering the consequences (hint hint read "Veronica & Victoria's" story).

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
enabling???

Sorry but I don't see any enabling going on. They were each appalled by the family history send Patrick even says that he and Kevin are still working through it. But let me ask this... is being willing to sacrifice your child for money any better? Is putting yourself in front of your unborn child right? I like many others hope that barb Will at least change enough for her baby.

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#TeamBarb follow up.

To the anonymous, yes, I stated Louise is boring because she is. Her "finding her strength" isn't as compelling because she's not experienced great hardships. Same with Kevyn. They both didn't put up much of a fight concerning their mates, but gave in based on tragedy of losing their mom and a kidnapping. Louise is likable, but heralding her as a great character while making Barb a villain has no rhyme nor reason. Louise being the glue that holds the family together is a bit of a stretch.

A lot of readers have rose colored glasses on with the Sinclair men because they're rich & powerful, handsome, have big dicks, pledging their undying love to their, and are great in bed with their mates. Both are trying to stand tall on their rickety perches while coming off as hypocrites.

No, Patrick didn't pay for his rape crimes in the way he should and that is the writers' prerogative. It's like "Patrick raped 20 years ago and most if those women are dead", Lalalala I'm so in love Kevyn and all is well.

Apparently Barb being a selfish bitch is the most evil, unforgivable sin ever, but violent sexual crimes of raping women, not so much.

It is false equivalency to compare Barb's materialism to one sister marrying an ex-serial rapist that almost resulted in the death of a relative, and the other sister marrying a seed of rape. The only reason why Patrick stopped raping and were shamed was because jesse brutally raped and killed his mate, then committed suicide, followed by the suicide of his father , and Katrina with the help of her ex-rapist and mate Ethan called for the end of raping countless innocent women for hundreds of years. Patrick's mom enabled her sons rape legacy, and Patrick decided at that time he didn't want to end up like all of his brothers, dad, and grandad raping their mates. It wasn't out of ethical morality, decency, self-control, or having the courage to recognize how evil committing violent sexual crimes are, but only because Patrick was scared he'd rape his own mate. Just because he's the only one who didn't rape his mate out of all his brothers doesn't mean he's a better man. His arrogant attitude towards Gene left me bewildered since he's not a standard of high principles.

Nathan and Joesph are the only first generation of Sinclair men who didn't rape their mates, and Nathan is acting like he's a pillar of honor and integrity. I literally laughed out loud when I read his admonishment of Gene and Barb as if he comes from nobility. Talk about delusional. His backbone was nowhere to be found regarding his own relatives guilty of rape. I've read the entire Sinclair series and I disagree that each Sinclair men outside of Ethan and Jesse, paid for what they did. I was hoping one would die after what, hundreds of years of brutally raping innocent women, then cowardly erasing their memories to assuage their guilt.

Barb being a selfish gold digger =/= abusive rapist and product of rape with money and looks.

Barb was treated like a cheap slut, mocked, and used horribly by Thorne the night they met, and that night resulted in an unwanted pregnancy. So no, she's not happy about the conception and reality of being a single parent while she watches her siblings have love, respect, and security. She tried to play a game with Thorne and she got burned by her mistakes. I'm interested in reading where Barb's story goes because she is a lot more compelling character wise than Disney princess Louise.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
blah blah

Scorpmoon, stop reading the series if you hate it so much. Write something that you would like and stop dumping on Kalamazo. My name is Stacy. I don't have an account yet but I'm on here everyday if you have anything to say to me.

fluerfluerover 11 years ago
COME ON PEOPLE...

This is specifically aimed at Scorpmoon. No one is trying to condone the Sinclaire men history of rape versus Barb's actions. Neither party has clean hands. However to acknowledge what you have done and try to become a better person does show a compacity to grow.

Just like the Sinclaire men, Barb has free will. She is not all bad but she is her own worst enemy. Barb has good instance but chooses to ignore them. At the club, Barb sense Thorne was not quite right but still chose to go down that path. To now blame an innocent for her choices does not negate her reponsibility.

Furthermore as one reader put it, why are you reading this story if you don't like the series? All I can say in defense of Kal, is that she's a good writer. She has gotten in your head because you are so passionate in you dislike of the Sinclaire's and your championship of Barb. I'll admit to wanting Barb to have her own story. She's the bad girl you love to hate.

mrskelleymrskelleyover 11 years ago
Loved this chapter

I do hope Barb changed. She is crazy but interesting. I am beginning to like her character and hopes that she will become better. I love how the rest of the clan is finding mates and to find that both families have a bond was amazing. Great writing, can't wait for more. Congrats on your daughters wedding!!!!

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#teambarb. to Stacy

Did I infer my hatred this series? My main gripe are regarding the double standards and hypocrisy regarding Nathan and Patrick considering their rape history, and their disdain for Gene and Barb as if they've better qualities when they do not have it. Comments written about those characters by me stands. Louise is boring and she's truly a Disney princess. One half expects her to break out in song with birds chirping with her in unison. I'm well within my right to comment favorably or unfavorably on stories read on this site. Kalamazoo is a talented writer and she's a fantastic taking difficult topic if rape. Had you read my previous comments, you'd of been aware of that without flying of half cocked. I'm here reading the stories and intend to continue whether you our any Barb-basher likes it or not.

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#teambarb. To Fluer

To Fluer. I've addressed and acknowledged Barb's bad behavior in previous chapters, and she's dealing with issues off insecurity on top of being treated unfairly like a pariah. It's asinine. Nothing Barb did warrants such disdain. Louise is only interesting because of her siblings supplemental story lines.

Now that Barb has figured out what Nathan did to her, the problem has now exasperated between Barb and the rest of her family outside Gene. Nathan may not be a violent rapist like his great grandfather, grandfather, father and uncles, but he's definitely picked up controlling tactics too. To me, he's no better than the rest of the Sinclaire men in his family, with the exception of his brother Joesph.

And both Kevyn and Louise decided to marry into another dysfunctional family with a legacy of violent rape against innocent women, in which many of Sinclaire's victims were mates just like them, and that is much worse than their own Yancy family drama without the $$$, power, and immortality. Both have not felt the full fallout of the rape legacy.

We are in agreement regarding Barb's free will and being her own worst enemy. I don't believe she's all things evil. When she apologizes, no one believes her, but Patrick apologizes for brutally raping women, it took less than a few days for Kevyn to fall back into his arms, lol. Nathan is the product of rape and Louise still didn't put up much of a fight regarding his family background.

If Barb gets her own story, then hopefully her character evolution can be just as rewarding as the other Yancy's, including Gene. She already acknowledged her mistake in not trusting her own instincts with Thorne and now she's facing an unwanted pregnancy because of her poor decisions. At this point she's in survival mode given the way her baby was conceived, effecting her long term goals. Of course she not going to automatically develop loving maternal instincts like Disney princess' child that was conceived out of loving marriage.

Both you and anonymous Stacy are reaching. I'll refer you to my response to her regarding this series. Thanks.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
barb

Without going into a long thing, I would like to point out that Barb s behavior started when she was a child. Remember the prom dress?? Remember that she slept with the rich guy who took her to the prom? Barb was loved but not in the way she wants to b. There's nothin wrong with wanting a better life but it's wrong to use and hurt your family to get it. Barb was one of seven who grew up poor but only she and gene tried to hurt her family. Well Leon did with his drug use. As far as I can see barb has not tskrm resppossibility for her actions. Doesn't she at one point tell Kevin that it was her fault? She admits that Thorne was s mistake but not that she was at fault... in fact this is where she blames Kevin. Thorne was a bastard to do as he did . There is no deny ing that but she chose.

The Sinclair's haven't denied what they are. The women who meted with them are not enabling them.... the rapes arrnt happening anymore. Idk but it seems to me that the problem that Nathan and Patrick have with gene and Barb is the way they treat their family. Both of them used their family for financial gain.

As far as barb s treament she is the one who pulled away. Even so her family tries to reach out to Herr.

Lou and Kevin trdied to involve her but she lets her jealousy get in the way.

Oops... sorry... this was going to b short.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
In regards to Barb

Sorry ScorpMoon but i'm going to have to disagree with you. I dont see any hypocricy in this story. Barb is a pariah becuase she made herself that way. She the one who blows people off when they try to reach out and extend a hand to help her and offer her good advice. She the who is never happy no matter what people do for her they should be doing more. She blames everyone for her own problems instead of taking responsibility for her actions. Even when her own insticts are tell her what's right she ignores it. If would have she wouldn't have went with Thorne and gotten inot the mess she in now and pregnant with his kid. Yet even after all that she has yet to learn her lesson and made any effort whatsoever to become a better person. Instead being happy for her sisters and acting in love she been nothing but a sefish jealous bitch to them. As far as nobody believing Barb's half ass appologies . Why should they? By her own admission she acknowledges that they're not sincere. That is why most people have issue with her charatcer. It's not that we've let the Sinclaire men off the hook for their past actions. The difference for me is that I can see that they have owned their past. They don't blame other people for their aciotns. They understand it was all them and that what they did was wrong and learned from it. They have done the work and made the effort to change for they better and also worked stop other vampires from doing it. Patrick and Nathan's issue with Barb and Gene is not that they think they are above or somehow better. They can see that both Barb and Gene just want eveything handed to them but the dont want to put forth the effort to do the work to earn it. It does however seem that Gene is now starting to get it and is ready to do the work to change his situation. Barb to this point has not seen the error of her ways hopefully that will change as the story continues to move forward.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
Louise and nathan

Excellent story congratulations to Louise and nathan. Also to Leon nadine juliette and Hans great people to mate congratulations to all of them. Hopefully barb and gene can change and maybe if they do they will mate with someone. That's only gonna happen if they stop thinking about money and start thinking about love. Continue writing can't wait to see what happens next.

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#teambarb. to anonymous

To anonymous, 9/16/12,Yes, there most certainly are double standards and hypocrisy regarding Barb and Gene vs Nathan and Patrick, because most readers are mesmerized by how rich, sexy, and powerful the Sinclair men are, they've let them off the hook regarding the rapes. For goodness sake, the first time Louise met Nathan was because his cousin was kidnapped and the death of a vampire trying to avenge his mate's rape by Nathan's cousin Patrick.

Nathan hadn't disclosed pertinent information to Louise regarding his family historyhat his father raped during their courtship. Louise didn't press Nathan about his family, she practically and passively fell into bed with Nathan within days if meeting him. She isn't the strong character most are making her out to be. Additionally, I strongly disagree that Patrick paid for his crimes because he most certainly did not. He told Kevyn he was sorry and Kevyn fell into bed with him right after her mom died. Yeah, Patrick paid for it alright, in orgasms with Kevyn. Both could are hypocrites towards Barb.

There was no inference made by me that Barb was innocent, and my previous comments noted her negative qualities, but she's certainly is not a pariah. She's a bad girl I love and don't hate. She's jealous and envious because she wants what her sisters have. There is something about her character that had potential for real redemption. Also, I didn't agreed with her skewed perspective on being abused by her parents because by all accounts her parents were loving and hard working people that did their best to keep their family together through tough financial times and health issues. That is why the villifcation of Barb is hard to swallow.

And so what if Nathan and Patrick don't agree with Gene and Barb's attitude? The Yancy's grew up poor working class while the Sinclair's have no early idea what that entails. Both are tired if struggling for $$$$. When Nathan told Barb he would gladly give up his $$$ to be with his Disney princess, that was complete bull crap since he spent load of $$$$ on building a new home for them, lol. Again, they have no business looking down on anyone considering how the men in they're family destroyed lots of women through violent rapes, including Nathans mom.

Barb being a gold digger =/= rapists.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
opinion

I've been reading the comments of this story and actuallly reread this chapter to see where Scorpmoon is coming from. I agree with her that she is entitiled to her opinion as I and everyone else is.

I like the anon from earlier today feel that there is no hypocrisy. The Sinclaire family brought up a interesting question, how responsible are we for doing what we are taught and when does it become out responsibity to fix it? obviously, we can't control what we are taught but, we can try to fix it once we are aware that we are doing wrong and /or hurtng the people that we love. Ethan knew 500 yrs before he raped Katrina that it was wrong but he did nothing... a fact to which he admits.

I can buy that it took him raping his mate in order for him to change, but dosn't change usuallly begin when something horrific occurs? Unfortunately, in this case it was rape.

As faar as whether they paid for it or not, yes and no. From a human standpoint, no. they didn't go to prison but remember, the vampire community knew what was happening and did nothing to help because, it just wasn't done. Yes they are paying because with every mate they find, they have to tell the horrible family legacy. They have to tell the story to every child that is born- btw... Nathan didn't wwithold information from Louise.

what did patrick day to Kevy when he told her about his past? he said I am a rapist. In Ethan it's the same thing, he was and always will be the one who raped his mate.

what I don't get is why be so hard on Nathan? he was a product of rape.

Another commenter made the statement that barb has been the way she is since she was young... we saw evidence of that wth the dress and her ingratitude even when she found out that her father went into debt for it. the commenter mentioned some other things as well, but my point is... Barb didn't and doesn't care about her family. For that matter, she doesn't care about or respect other people.. we saw that in the way that she treated the hotel staff/

I also happen to agree with the commenter who said that Barb is the one who won't let her family in. They love her but she doesn't or won't see it.

They tied to get her to leave the club and she wouldn't. Louise- tried to grab her to pull her away...

Lou is referred to as a fairy tale princess... so what if she is? she is also the one who keeps reaching out to barb when she could kick her to the curb. Even barb admits that Louise loved her no matter what she did... hell, I want a sister like that.

In my opionion, this isn't a story about who did the worst thing or who deserves what. It's about redemption and family. It's also about love and forgiveness and and not so much about looks and money as people seem to think.

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#teambarb. anonymous opine 9/16/12

Obviously well have to agree to disagree regarding the Sinclair family. I've already addressed the majority of your post in previous comments regarding Barb. The few points you've made, I'll respond to accordingly.

In this series regarding human justice versus vampire justice, I'll concede the point since the practice of rape was condoned and never challenged because the Sinclair's were one of the five powerful families in their world. In Ethan's story, he didn't lose his mate permanently. The Sinclair collective attack of conscious regarding brutal rapes against innocent women occurred AFTER Ethan violently raped Katrina, Jesse's brutal rape & murder of his mate, then killing himself out of guilt, followed by Steven's (my mistake for writing Richard earlier) and Mitchell's subsequent deaths. Those events did not make them men of integrity; Ethan's long time friend and therapist Mason didn't know he was a rapist until Ethan told him his last name.

In both Patrick and Louise's series, my main point of contention with Patrick and Nathan's hypocrisy, selective amnesia, and double standards towards Barb and Gene in particular. They know nothing about personal responsibility and being real men being leaders when every single one of their family patriarch were rapists and liars!! Although Gene has integrity issues, at least Gene had the best example of a great loving and responsible man from his own daddy, which in turn making the right decision regarding Kevyn's attempt on her life at the last minute. He never needs a lecture from the likes of the Sinclair men on doing the right thing. Last time I checked, Patrick and Nathan have been lying about their real identities from Leon and Gene. Gene and Leon being the men of the family do not know the truth about their brothers in laws, but Patrick and Nathan suddenly know so much about responsibility and integrity? Both of them hypocrites.

So what if Patrick and Nathan are saddled with the uncomfortable task telling their future kids about the family legacy of rapes? The likelihood of scorn and rejection from their children are minuscule because their kids will rely on how much daddy loves them and mommy just as Nathan, Veronica, and Vanessa concluded towards with their parents. Telling someone you're a rapist isn't the same as paying for it.

Since Kevyn and Louise accepted & forgave the disgusting rape legacy of their husbands, then all the family love and acceptance should be applied to Barb and Gene without judgment. Barb decided to keep her baby and she apologized for her bad behavior towards the staff, but that's overlooked consistently. Don't blame her if people want to hold into that but overlook the rape legacies of the Sinclair men because they're hot, sexy, and rich.

Yes, Louise, the Disney princess is boring due to her passivity regarding Nathan and her lack of real personality outside her family. Good for her for going straight from her moms house right to getting married. Not a reason to conclude she's a strong character, though. Had she put up a real fight for get independence, made Nathan work for her, went to school for culinary arts, opened her own restaurant, dated a bit, enjoyed her freedom before marrying Nathan, then I'd regard her a strong character, but she's not, therefore she's a Disney princess. Nothing she says about life and love means a thing because she had no real life experiences nor maturity outside being a caregiver and now a wife and new mother.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
whatever

If you hate this family so much, why do you keep reading about them?. I was going to leave a longer comment but you know what? you'll just come back with the same arguments. But I will say this, a couple of times, barb's treatment and disrespect to her family and others was mentioned and you didn't rspoond... oh wait... she isn't a rapist and that makes her better than them. Instead you harped on the wrongs of the sinclaires, ignore the fact that they're working to change things, prevented future rapes and helping those with other issues as well- which before you say it doesn't negate what they did, but they arent sweeping it under the rug. okay... i'm sure that this is going to get another long response from you making the same points so i'll stop.

good night and peace

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
#Teambarb follow up to anonymous

Let me reiterate for the last time, everything I've written stands. Go back and actually read what I've written including my positive comments about Kalamazoo.

MimiRoseMimiRoseover 11 years ago
Question... Well, questions...

@Kalamazoo:

In regards to all of your stories, are all of them already written (from the beginnings to the endings) or do you write along as you go? I always wondered, but I tend to forget to write down the question, when the opportunity comes along.

Will Thorne make another appearance in this story? His backstory makes him appear interesting to me.

Will a villian finally make an appearance in this incredible story? Or is this like "Ethan"?

Finally, I would like your opinion in regards to this whole... thing. And when I mean 'thing', I mean the debate that is going on in the readers' comment section.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
Zulu's in South Africa???

Kal, u're one of my favourite authors, reading about my country( South Africa) just made my day!!!! Can't wait to find out what happens to Juliette and Hans! Hurry please. Keep up the gr8 work!!!

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
ScorpMom.....Wow?

Ok, everyone take a step back, this is just a story! Fictional characters. Although Kalamazoo has a great ability to tell a story, I don't think she wanted her readers to "box or throw rocks". People, let us all take a deep breath or 10 and just enjoy the story (series). Kalamazoo, thanks for the great series and I must say, your words bring out a very passionate side to many of your readers. Regardless of how one person feels about the characters I must say, Bravo! You have a beautiful gift that most of us wish we had. 10 stars for you!

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
The best

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and therefor I am not going to comment on any comment. The story 'Louise' is awesome! Every chapter comes with new surprises. Louise thorougly deserves all the happiness she now has with Nathan and she is for sure not boring. More surprises in the story line is for sure coming. Barb 'seeing' Louise drinking blood? Very interesting. Where is Thorne going to feature? What is the issue with Joseph? Hans and Juliette deserves to be happy together with the children. So does Leon and Nadine. Gene truly changed his thoughts and I hope he will continue to work towards being a better person. I enjoy reading every chapter of this story. Kal, write, write, write, please. Most of us just love your stories. Hugs, Ann133

THELOVELY1GLOTHELOVELY1GLOover 11 years ago
Truly

gifted, keep penning for your many fans.

ScorpMoonScorpMoonover 11 years ago
anonymous 9/19/12

I'm aware it's a fictional story and the site I'm reading this story on, so there's no need to state the obvious to me. Also, I don't need to calm down, so please keep that bit of unsolicited advice to yourself. As stated previously by myself, it's called an opinion on the story, and from what I've read in this and other comments in previous chapters, there are a few who share my opinion regarding the confusing villianization of Barb's character, while the Sinclair men, who happen to have histories of violent rape against women, including their mates. Obviously you had not actually read the other comments because I'm not the only one questioning why Barb is being made to be the pariah, while the serial raping Sinclair men are viewed as everything awesome. While this story is fiction, the reader shouldn't suspend all common sense and logic in reading such a deeply sensitive issue concerning violent sexual crimes against women.

However, Barb being a gold digger is the most unforgivable crime for some. Lol. Yeah.ok. Ironically, Kanye's gold digger just came on the radio. Viva La Barb.

That's my take, and I'm sticking to it, period.

AnonymousAnonymousover 11 years ago
zulus in south africa!!

Imagine my suprise not 2 mention my delite when I read the last chapt.about zulus in SOUTH AFRICA! As a Zulu I must commend u on yo accuracy! U did yo homemork! It was awesome 2 c my sisters name Khanyisile(the light has come/light is shining) yo story is awesome and I must say,u'r one talented writer.oh and btw I live in Kwa Zulu Natal where u'l find most of us(zulu)

TrellyWellDoItWellTrellyWellDoItWellabout 11 years ago
love it!!!

Love all your stories!! but this one and Mason are my favorites!!!

DoctimeDoctimeabout 10 years ago
Congratulations

I know that I am not reading your stories in real time, you may well be a grandmother by now. However your simple mistakes have improved, which improves the readability of your stories. Perhaps you even have an editor by now. If not you sure need one. Even the best authors need an editor, / proofreader, / suggestion box, whatever you want to call it. You have created a wonderful fictional family, one any mother (author) can be proud of. Your descriptions make the characters come ALIVE in your readers minds. Lastly although I am caucasion, I appreciate the strong yet somewhat flawed black/brown Yancey descendants. If you would like or need any editing help, I am available. Doctime

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