All Comments on 'The Caller'

The MC overthinks everything, yet can't come up with the answer that the woman who was calling him was Francis. And then he finally meets her and she outs herself he totally gives her a pass for causing him angst over his wife potentially cheating on him. I'd have been ticked off over that.

Anyway, they're all just stories.

Glad to see the MC's wife is an actual loving wife. Can't say the same for slutty Kara. I wonder if Brenda will change her mind when the kids are out of the nest and she decides to have a "honey, we need to talk" episode (no doubt Kara will be in her ear at that time fanning the flames). I hope not.

Francis: "I guess I have just one more issue with you," I said. "You lied about Brenda being interested in having an affair, didn't you?"

"Yes. I had to say that to get you involved. That fact is that Brenda was very upset with Kara over this but she never said anything to her about it. Brenda and I talked about it a few times. Brenda kept hoping that Kara would come to her senses and stop fooling around. I never told Brenda this but I kept hoping that John would catch her."

"So Kara never tried to persuade Brenda to try fooling around?" I inquired.

"Actually, Kara did suggest it once and Brenda made it very clear that she would never do that. That's where I got the idea about calling you. I twisted things a bit but it was based on Kara making that suggestion," Fanny said.

=====> Translation: Francis is a skulking bitch. She put the MC through mental torture and put unnecessary stress on his marriage. Francis outright lied about Brenda to spur the MC to action. Francis was too lazy to sobe her own problem. She coukd have easily hired a PI and dropped off the information anonymously to John. I do not like her. She is untrustworthy. Not to mention that while Kara and John are done, and obvious since Kara is cheating on John with multiple guys for some time, and would never have stopped on her own, John and Francis are seeing each other the very next week? Rebound much? Not healthy. Dude needs to breathe and get some space. Did Kara and John have kids. Guess not.

Also not clear why some commenters are thrashing on Brenda. She w a never going to cheat. She did not approve. Kara was her best friend and she naively thought it would go away. She confided in Francis that she was really upset with what Kara was doing, but was too wrapped up I'm this emotionally to "betray" Kara. Not particularly ethical but a lot of people get stuck in such quandaries. Meanwhile Francis is also in the same moral quagmire but does something much more repugnant, twisting Brenda's words 180 degrees and putting the MC through hell.

Good story. Agree with previous comme terms that this author's best stories are when there is no cheating or cheating is a one time side element that is much less than the overall stakes involved.

All the way to the end I just had a uncomfortable feeling that the husband was going to find some evidence she was a cheater luckily that ending didn't happen whew...

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Well-written and quite enjoyable, Thanks for a good read.

Eh?

Un peu tiré par les cheveux

Good twist. Well played. Agre with prior commenter. Would have had both followed. But Francis was a bitch. She nearly destroyed his and Brenda's marriage. Why didn't she just hire her own PI and have it dropped off anonymously for the cheated husband? Then swoop in? None of that is brought up in the story.

Brilliant mystery 5*

Brilliant. 5*

Author, I was thinking about you today.

There was a story the other day which made me rethink this story entirely. Now I can't like it. What happens if John's life is ruined and his kids life is ruined?

Très bon. Belle histoire bien écrite avec juste assez de suspens.

Nice job. D

Good twist and the MC was smart. I hate to say but in the same exact situation, I might have had both women followed. Though it was clear the caller had yo be Francis after seeing the restaurant that day. Ignoring all that, why didn't Francis just hire a PI and anonymously deliver the info to John? She wad a bitch lying about Brenda's supposed desires and intentions. Could have really hurt the marriage with a bad fight.

Nice twist at the end

Good story, well-written, 5 stars...

very good great story happy ending

Creative and well written.

Very nice twist. He had Kara followed not Brenda. I will say that once he staked out the restaurant from the car but got a phone call, it was clear it was Francis. They would never always get the same table anyways. What Francis did was pretty crappy. Could have done more harm to the MC's marriage than it did. But creative story.

Great story, great twist. Wonderful to have at least one loving wife on literotica 5*

I saw the twist coming bit it was still a great story. KK is becoming one of my faves.

I'm a sucker for a happy ending

This story is one that you really have to pay attention, nowhere does the story say who he was having the detective agency follow except at the very end. It kind of leads you to believe that it was Brenda but in fact the twist was at the end he had Kara followed and he send the DVD to John to let him know what Kara was doing. Excellent story. 5/5

Fruedzslip69, read it again. He didn’t have BRENDA followed by the PI ya muppet.

Nice plot twist.

Uh…excuse me,,, but wasn’t there a “little” item he forgot? Nothing really big…just photos and video of Brenda in a bar drinking and kissing another man, then them fucking doggy style in the back seat of the car??? I guess he dreamed all that, right???????

W hat? a good ending in Loving Wives? Nonsense can't be. Thank you....sk742 5*

Clever and creative with a great twist. Men and women both that are cheaters, get what they deserve. They had the choice of what they were doing, the spouse didn't. I don't understand how some cheat so easily. Those are really just bad people.

Great story. 5 stars.

Throughout my life I have tried to get people to stop cheating on their spouses. Unfortunately there were some who were just players who couldn’t stop cheating. They all got divorced!

2nd time, or maybe 3rd, and still an excellent story. A couple points were a bit weak but it really didnt derail the story at all nor really detract from it.

I love the twist, so many try to pull those off and fail, you didn't.

One of those rare stories others could learn from......they wont but we can hope.

Been reading in lit many years. It has always appalled me as to the low state of morality of our society in the area of telling the bad news to the offended party. Both readers and authors seem to to take the default position t hat not telling is both best positive and justified. Somehow not telling what they know will not only potentially prolong the offense, but will actually make it better when the truth is finally known. Bullshit..The feeble excuse of " I did not want to hurt them with the bad news" is completely ridiculous and just low grade self preservation and avoidance. This is one of the few if any stories in which the Mc takes positive action to both inform and stop the infidelity. If only more folks in the real worlds and the lit world took this approach.

Clever little tale, beautifully written and not as predictable as it first seemed.

LA

story was good. some of it really, not right. why do you K.K. feel its necessary for a man/husband to apologize for doing the right thing..a woman whom condones or accepts her friends cheating is untrustworthy. she should be made to feel responsible. I for one would suspect her as well no mater how she spins the events and not let her off that easy, take her to bed and its all ok??. you have a low opinion of mens integrity? the other thing he questions himself in the way he exposed karen to John and feels he should have confronted her. That's bullshit. she's a slut and john deserved better so he had to be told so he could take the appropriate steps.

Reading again. This was a great story with a good twist. Glad Brenda was a real Loving Wife.

It is a great story. My one complaint, I can’t see a concerned husband sitting on the sidelines for weeks while this drama unfolds. The risk/reward ratio is way too low for inaction and dithering about. Still a good story and I appreciate the tension and realization of those caught on the sidelines. Well done!

Excellent story, very well written, but I wouldn't expect anything less from K.K.

with respect

DG Hear

Another excellent, well written well crafted story. The plot line was clever getting him to out Kara to save his own marriage and then finding out he'd been played by Franny and that his wife was totally true to him.

“Dr Robinson, our computer calculations shows the Earth has a good chance of being hit by a comet in a 13 weeks. We have calculated it will come at least between the moon and Earth, so ~100,000mi. And if are calculations are even a little off, or we didn’t account for every variable, it might hit Earth. Beware.”

“Ummm... okay. Maybe I’ll bring it up at the next Wednesday’s weekly meeting of concerned scientists... ummm maybe not. I’ll wait and see. Yes, that’s what I’ll do, wait for a couple of weeks to see if my subordinates refine their calculations so as to be certain.”

Yeah, right.

But, if you can get around that, this is a 4-star story.

Great loving wife story.

Excellent story. Second time through for me and it was still just as good.

I'm a big fan of this story. It's loving and honest, it gets the emotions going with concerns of infidelity, plays with the reader's head just enough, and delivers an excellent resolution. That's a good story!

Would it be a step child?

Loved it, made me feel warm, great, a cheater gets her just desserts and a lovely family live happily ever after.

Sex on the stairs can be difficult, especially if they are metal like the kind in a college library. Oh did I write that? Oops

Well-written and enjoyable story. The one bump in the road was why hubby would spend the significant amount of money it takes to have a PI follow and make a case on Brenda?Yeah,I realize that by exposing her to John he’d found a way to deter his wife from cheating but the four were good friends and it seemed an extreme way to go rather than just find a way to talk with his wife. (And that Fanny was a sneaky, conniving bitch in the way she went about hurting all four in her quest.) ~ rated it a 4.

Just wanted to point out that, there was a cheater, manipulator, and silent women present in this story. To top it all off, the husband who was manipulated into this course of action felt guilty for doing so. Not for being manipulated, but because he did something behind his wifes back, when she was being silent about it all. Sounds strange eh, this is just what happens. Its gotten to the point where we as guys have to feel guilty about doing anything, for the right reason. Its the times we live in.

Great story that I have somehow missed. Smart girl that Fanny to use him to get John free of Kara. Great twist in the story. Good all round.

Coming back to this after five years! First, I can't believe that a wife within two couples, is going to tell the other wife that she's cheating. I would fully expect that the other wife would, if not squeal, would at least tell her husband, who would then tell the other husband.

Second, why do cheating wives try to recruit their friends to cheat? Besides the risk of the above, cheating involves risk. Why magnify the risk by having another cheater?

"Brenda hadn't said anything about their lunches in so long that it was doubtful that they were still meeting weekly." - Maybe she hasn't said anything because of what they're talking about!

"Seed of doubt?" - She answered all of his questions easily and openly, didn't even hesitate at the thought of him joining them.

I knew the DVD wasn't Brenda because nothing has been said about her going out on ANY nights. Her "late" night was the Brownie meetings when she was home by six.

How could she try to stop her? How about, "Are you crazy? How can you do that to a great guy like John?"

"I didn't like what she was doing" - But you never told her that, right?

Kara's her friend, but John is, too. And she didn't make A mistake. That would be a drunken one-nighter, she was carrying on a series of affairs, or one-nighters, or whatever.

I don't think that idle boasts by semi-strangers are on the same level as on-going conversations with a best friend about cheating on another best friend.

I don't buy him blaming himself.

5 stars for a great read. Nice twist re the detective.

because 'high moral standards'....please.

for themselves...maybe. but my BEST male friend...he has a brother that enjoys flirting and is married. my friend CHEWED his brother out verbally over and over again until his brother stopped flirting. THAT...is high moral standards. but my friend is pretty amazing. i'm not as mature as he is...but i can sure recognize it when i see it.

I have added it to my favourites, enough said⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

But hard to like Frances. On the surface a loving friend , but a manipulator. And as other stories have told us , private investigator s aren't cheap. And , why were the investigators following her when his concerns were with his wife ? That makes no sense to me.

Need I say more? 5*

Five freakin stars

No suggestions, just wow & thank you.

original plot, well written.

What a great way to send a message to a wife considering disaster! I do like a happy ending. Good job and thanks!

3 stars buy I really do mean 4 stars my error

Why not 5. Time important screws up flow of the story

Pubic hair au naturel I love not bald or shaven eat pussy fine with hair

I found your writing was engaging and interesting. Very neat twist at the end, but safe. Its like your so afraid of confrontation that you have to do it at a distance. I could be wrong, but that was just my gut reaction to it. But very nice story. 5stars

Nice story and plot line. Though I figured it was Francis as the caller the second time she was mention, or at least that she was possibly ONE of the choices (there was at least 2 or 3 other possible other ways the story could unfold, at least in my mind) though I didn’t figure on her being in love with John.

KK always has male character rather stupid. Sometimes details are also not thought about but it is always with dense main male character.

This story was a waste of time to read. I. Wanted to puke and take a shit on the floor. Drink your wine fool and knock up your slut wife. Crap story.

Quite a nice twist in this story. Well done.

That “Fanny”, or “Francis”, was one manipulative bitch. She dragged an innocent couple into her scheme to destroy a marriage so she could latch on to her old boyfriend. And had no remorse at all when she was discovered. What a disgusting piece of human debris.

Francis and John's new relationship now is going to start with a major secret. If they marry she will have to carry the secret to her grave that she is the reason for destroying John and Kara's marriage.

Mike is going to have to keep the secret from Brenda that he is the reason that John and Kara's marriage was destroyed. That he believed that Brenda could cheat on him. That he helped betray Kara. That he never gave Kara a chance to stop her actions.

I'm not saying what he did was wrong, just that major important secrets are going to be kept from their partners, likely forever. Brenda might be very upset with Mike if she knew he did what he did. John might not want to give Francis a shot at a relationship knowing she manipulated things the way she did or that she didn't tell him directly sooner.

loved how it unfolded by an old girlfriend overhearing his wife bragging about her fucking around on her husband so used him to dish the dirt on her and give the info to the cuckolded husband and all done because the woman was still in love with him and saw a way to get rid of the cheating whore and get her man....brilliant twist....

Well written, and worth every one of the 5 stars I gave it.

A fun five star read.

But what a back-stabbing Bitch that "Francis" turned out to be. Like they say, with friends like her, who needs enemies?

And I'm glad to hear that Mike realized that he was one too!

Cheating is always sad, innocent people always get hurt, even the enablers get hurt in some way. It's corrosive, and eats away at your insides like a cancer.

Fidelity in spite of temptation is a wonderful, precious thing. Never take it for granted, cherish the one you love and be sure that they know you love them every second of every day!.

Happy Valentine's Day! Another well told tale, thanks!

I tried a few of your stories before I got to this, so I was lucky to get to this one.

It was the only one I liked.

Funny thing was you had turned off the stars and comments on the others.

You realized they were pieces of shit didn't you? Why didn't you just delete them?

I know I would if I realized they were utter pieces of cuck loving horseshit.

Good story. Was Brenda really going to double date with Kara when Mike went to Denver?

That's how it was being 'handled' by the weekend... as he told Francis, the 'anonymous' caller. I knew it was her and that there'd be no other person sitting near them to overhear their conversations.... just didn't know the why of it. What she did put tremendous stress on his and Brenda's marriage. Suspicion has a destructive effect on any relationship where trust is the foundation.

Why the fuck did Mike had Kara followed by his PI instead of following his wife... if he is indeed suspect her..then in make no sense.

Who knows him not have his PI follow his wife she might b doing it..and may b plan on having her lover's child and the cuckold husband Mike to raise...

Enjoyed it more than I did the first time through. This was put together nicely.

Tell Kara to end it before John found out...then a week later if Kara hadn't, tell her that they were no longer friends till she did...Mike was right, Brenda by not saying anything was enabling adultery....Dave from California

I cannot understand the comments of people picking fly shit out of the pepper. It's a story. And a good one at that.

Period.

Seemed like Francis could have gotten a PI and told John. And if they were such good friends why couldn't he have taken a copy of the report to Kara, told her to clean up her act, tell John what she had done and that she was sorry and see if they could work it out instead of just handing John a hand grenade. Other than those things it wasn't a bad tale. But the hell with having another kid when the youngest was already 7. Too old and too far along in the child rearing business to start all over again.

get and maintain carnal urges for each other. TK U MLJ LV NV

@Anonymous 06/29/09 – I know this is old, but the spot was still damp because she CLEANED it that morning, it wasn’t still damp from their juices the night before!

And since there was NOTHING in the story indicating that she had a lover, for you to make up not only a lover but a pregnancy by that lover out of whole cloth is stupid!

@AdjectiveNounVerb,How did the phone call reveal that it was Kara on the DVD? The phone call just said that Kara had an emergency, Brenda didn’t even mention the DVD when she got home!

I have been writing these as I was reading, so they don't all have the benefit of hindsight!

I don’t understand why he doesn’t want to tell Brenda about the calls. Maybe she might have some ideas about who would do such a thing and why.

And if Brenda IS considering an affair – if bringing up the calls gets her to forget about it – is that such a bad thing? Why is it SO important to know if she is THINKING about an affair? Would it be good to know? Sure, but wouldn’t it be better to nip it in the bud?

“This should have made me feel better but it didn't.”

You’re right – it should have!

Regarding the trip – granted it was hard to see, but it didn’t look like anyone was sitting next to Brenda’s group, so how did the caller hear ANYTHING? And does he REALLY think she would have an affair when she’s trying to get pregnant?!

Isn’t Brenda going to get curious when John starts showing up with Francis?

Regarding the “enabling” – it’s one thing to idly listen to casual acquaintances bragging about their “conquests”, it’s a bit different to eat lunch every week with your BEST FRIEND and listen to them talk about their affairs and not say anything.

Why didn't Francis hire a detective herself? Made no sense to involve Mike and Brenda.

KarenE - "Why couldn't Frances have hired the detective herself? Why get him involved?" -

That would have been simple and saved him a lot of suffering and damage to his marriage. However, if that ever came to light, Francis would be busted and that would be the end of her and John. Francis was a bitch, Kara was a slut, Brenda was a NOT a good friend (she should have warned her friend to stop. Mike did the right thing, he protected his marriage and told the truth when he actually had the truth. John was a victim of Kara and now Francis. Somehow, it would be nice if John were to discover the truth about Francis.

It's well conceived and written and I love the plot. It also has a real "loving wife."

I'm sure I've voted for this before but I gave 5*s again just for good measure.

Thank you!

The only problem with this story is that it is difficult to determined ne who is on first until the end of it. Then I asked myself what did I miss.

@AdectiveNounVerb Re: DVD – I guess you’re smarter than I am, I had NO clue that it was Kara in the DVD, I was surprised it wasn’t in the manila envelope in the mail.

@Anonymous Re: Slut! – Get a fucking life! Not only is there NOTHING in the story backing up your rant, there is EVERYTHING in the story TOTALLY de-bunking it!

@Drbeammer3333 Re: Letting friend know – The only problem I have with that is the probability of it all getting back to Brenda, and her finding out her husband’s doubts about her and his part in breaking up Kara’s marriage. Nothing good can come from that!

Why couldn't Frances have hired the detective herself?

Why get him involved?

The author did a good job of camouflaging several issues. Combine that with me reading the story too fast and the result was clear - I had to go back and reread the initial conversation with the AAA guy and what happened with the large manila envelope Brenda brought in from the mailbox. I did suspect/realize Frances (Not Francis!) was the caller and I should have realized that Brenda was not out late on Monday night or early on Wednesday morning. And I missed the fact that the disc was not in our hero's mail; therefore, it had to be in John's.

I enjoyed this story immensely. The contrast between the two wives as well as the way you made the pieces fit together. I do have to say that there were a few believability issues, but I was able -- and willing! -- to suspend my disbelief throughout. The only bitter pill to swallow is Francis. I don't think you quite intended for her to prove to be such a bitch, but she nearly destroyed TWO marriages to get what she wanted. Hopefully our protagonist will be smart enough to realize this!

Also -- at first I was shaking my head at the Babies Ever After cliche ending, but there is a hidden brilliance to it. It's probably for the best if Brenda keeps minimal association with Francis and Kara, at least for a while. What are the two ways you can do this? Either move (not so easy to do) or get her pregnant. If she's occupied with a new child she won't have as much time for her toxic friends. Kudos for using the pregnancy angle so well!!

I would have to let the John and fanny friendship die. Any person that would use people like that is not to be trusted. She has the potential to be a fatal attraction.

why didn't francis just ask for help? She instead caused friends to worry and doubt each other. not nice. it only served her own interest which was not honorable.

In response to an anonymous reviewer: you're really worried most about the PI bill? I can't understand you, man. On the one hand, the hubby went through weeks of hell because he was slowly becoming convinced, that his wife was planning to cheat on him. On the other hand, he now knows with absolute certainty, that Brenda had never had any such plans. If I was in that situation, I wouldn't think twice about paying $1k for that peace of mind.

The only thing that doesn't "fit", for a lack of a better word, is her going off the pill and trying to get pregnant again. Why did the husband never think about what that would mean if she did indeed plan to cheat? The implications of that actions are, in my opinion anyway, graver than the "mere cheating" warrants.

repeat 1*

Sometimes different is good and sometimes it's not. This is good. Three main characters whose behavior is grey to some degree. Interesting story with some thought going into developing the behavior of the characters. 5*

As earlier commenters noted, Francis was the manipulator who dragged husband Mike

into the situation where there really was NO situation, at least regarding him and Brenda.

That meant an unnecessary cost of a Minimum of a thousand dollars.

Kara got what was coming to her, but Francis should get the PI bill at minimum. If she balked at that, he should let both John and Kara know of her manipulations. She'd no doubt lose Kara as a friend in any case, taking up with her soon to be ex - husband; But John might have some second thoughts about how she dragged his friend into the situation

He may be happy she's there to "soften the landing" after his wife's affair, but knowing of

"Fanny's" manipulation might make him think twice about any relationship beyond that.

It's always great when someone you love and suspect of cheating wasn't.

I hate cheaters.

This is one of my all time favorite stories on this site. I had forgotten just how good you are. I will not forget again. A masterpiece.

He needed to let his friend know. After finding out she was having multiple affairs it was the right thing to do. However, as a friend, he should have had the cojones to do it face to face.

I can't fault Fanny either. She was certainly deceptive, but she didn't make a move until she knew the marriage was over - or at least should be for the husbands sake.

A very creative story.

Excellent story as usual; but after using me for her own purposes and lying to suck me into a situation that really was't my "affair", Francis/Fanny would never be a friend of mine.