All Comments on 'No Reply: Hope'

The only fitting end to this one, would be for the women to commit mass suicide ... The men should have been given the privilege of mixing up the Kool-Aid ! 2 Stars .

No… l changed my mind, forget 2/5, l’ve now changed my score to 1/5 that’s what you deserve for perpetuating such an awful Cuck story

So yes 1/5.

Yeah no. If you see this before you read it, give this one a pass, it'll just aggravate you.

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No you are right you failed too.

But at least you tagged cuckold to warn your readers that this is a cuck tale.

For that u get 2/5 not 1/5

Huh? Not a good follow up.

Should have been some damn punishment, and the renewed vows now I am into the 60s and never seen vow renewals that didn't end in divorce within 5 yrs maybe with a post nup

So the wives just get a clean slate? Where is any justice in that? What a bs conclusion.

I started but couldnt read this. In your preamble you clearly showed that the outcome was limited to how much she should be punished. Think of it on a simplistic level, if someone comits something evil like this wife, lets say shoots someone, is it a question of guilt or what the punishment should be. There is no excuse for committing adultery unless forced into it and its no different from a shooting, the only excuse is self defence. Writers like to use all kind of excuses for it but they are writing from imagination to satisfy their own needs. In reality everyone considers the consequences and chooses to ignore them or not.

Quizás técnicamente estaba bien escrito, pero la temática, los personajes...la trama es una mierda

Literotica debería permitir puntuar en negativo

Second time , still a crap story

Still 1/5

There's not a guy with a full set of nuts in that entire men's group. Not a one. Might as well have called themselves "The Pack Of Pussies".

Só fucking irealistc, yeah person is just that, is how person, having everyone forgiving the same way is just to much to go into my trout

2nnd remake of this theme I have read. Some ideas: Cucked husband cuts all the tree into 2' lengths and stacks them all over cheating wife's bed. OR erects a typical grave headstone with wife's name and week date and places it at the start of the trees. Makes a plaque of the wedding vows and mounts it permanently above the fireplace, kitchen sink or master bed.

cuckold rubbish men might think things can go back to the way they were but the women still got to fuck someone other than their spouse

I don’t care which version you read. If the trees stay alive and viable there has been no solution

I still stand by my comment that the men haven't done anything they need to be forgiven for,

1 star - waste of time and not just NO but HELL NO

Uh...no.

I literally laughed at the ending. So, they re-do their vows, after the infidelity is committed and all is well. LOL. No retribution to the wives and the years of emotional scarring that their adultery did? I didn't like HDK original in that the wife got away with it. I did like that the original brought out a lot of re-do or continuations, therefore as the goal of all artist is to invoke an emotional response, HDK did a good job.

This ending is just not one of the better ones.

Pointless. Nothing changed in any way. The females did what they wanted and suffered no ill effects. Simply pointless, much like this story.

I don't buy it. Nothing happened. The wives never suffered and never understood. They got clean slate, nothing in the balance of power has changed.

Debbie was quiet bipolar in this one, one moment leading the charge against her husband, unrepentant the next crying, but she never asked for forgiveness. I don’t know that ‘hope’ was the right word for this one, it needed more exploration, his mother was never dealt with or those trees.

Thanks for writing

Yet another one of those stories where the wronged party has to do all the heavy lifting to make things right, or as close to it as can be managed. The cheater(s) literally did nothing to deserve any kind of forgiveness or second chance. In fact she maintained her shitty, arrogant attitude right up until she and her cohorts saw that they were losing too much ground to recover. She didn't learn a damn thing; she went into damage control mode and her idiot hubby fell for it.

Debbie was a flat-out cheater.Maybe not technically as written, but she admits that if she didn't get her "tradition fuck," that she WOULD have cheated. As has been said in many comments, the men all suffered, how did the wives really suffer?

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And why is divorce so off the table. Yes, there are often financial difficulties for divorced families, but bankruptcy and/or financial ruin?

I liked it. It got the tribal/ clan foundation in a gendered grouping. The men drew sustenance from each other. I appreciated the “Battle of the Sexes” aspect of your version. This could. Ever be “solved” at the individual level because it happened at the community level. Any solution required more complexity than any individual could master. As for the vows, if it worked for the Weimar Republic to end the hyperinflation, then why not here? Money has value because people have faith that it does. Same with the institution of marriage. Or Bitcoin for that matter! As for the tees? I liked etchiboy’s analysis but I would add that the trees have more than one symbolic meaning. They are as etchiboy says they are BUT they are also symbols of life and bounty. Why stop at destroying trees in the manner described? Why not salt the earth they were rooted in while we are at it? And that is an unfinished aspect of MF’s story. What about the trees? Who will be the Lorax here?

@Artie88over Re: "WHY are authors doing this?

There is no way to add a BTB sequel to No Reply."

No, not a BTB SEQUEL, but an alternate version. A sequel requires accepting the original version as written, an alternate allows for making changes to the original.

Pathetic, another Cuck story

And yet only in, I believe, one version did the trees come down.

Hell, irregardless if the marriage continues or not, the first thing I’d do is cut them fuckers down. Rent one of them industrial sized tree chippers. Have each man (assuming health allows) to cut down each tree (and if health doesn’t allow, at least make the first symbolic cut). Then all the men volunteers cut the trees up and feed the chunks into the chipper.

I was going to say collect all the pieces and have a bonfire, but just as good is to dump each “set of trees” onto the driveway so each man can know he’s driving over the trophys every time they leave or arrive home. Absolutely do not use as mulch or for composting, as anything grown from it is a positive symbol. What you’re trying to do is destroy the trophies and not allow them in a positive light in any way. That includes using the wood as firewood, since that too is a positive use.

Everytime the wife made food from the fruit trees, and fed the dessert to the husband and family, she was making the symbolically acknowledgement “The Tradition” was beneficial to him. That includes using them as shade. Well, fuck that.

(Ever notice when you enter in “fuck”, autocorrect changes it to “duck”?)

1 star - a really sad story, but it is all fantasy, because it is so far beyond belief.

Yes, I agree that in a real situation there would be a considerable number of separations and divorces.

No way in hell would anyone get a free pass after all the harsh words and feelings that were expressed - no way.

Still nauseating.

Read again. She sure quickly and conveniently grew a conscience and a heart. Interesting story but no way all those marriages stayed together all those years and no way some of those boys didn’t say “why I want that old lady when I have young females who want me? That’s a hard pass mom and no I don’t want my mom to be my pimp.”

No way one of those men didn’t come back and kill all three of them (wife, little fucker and mother). No way some of the wives didn’t get treated like shit till they left. No way some of the sons didn’t start treating their moms with blatant disrespect.

Bankruptcy? Damn site less scary than living like the bitch boi all the rest of those men lived like.

Fuck this version too.

This was the worst of the revised endings. All the men are still portrayed as wimps who can't think for themselves. Poorly done

Read it again. I still think she changed too fast, but I think those trees should have come down before they retook their vows.

Not only is this a wimp story,it is a bunch of wimps story.He should have stuck some of the tree prunings up her arse.

Those trees should be burned. Witches ceremoniously burn the things they want to eliminate.

Problem not solved, every tree should be cut, not totally down but enough to remind the wives of what they did. The fallen tree left there for a year or two to remind them some more. The stumps to never be removed. And the men should all leave after cutting all the trees. The wives don't regret, and haven't paid for what they did. The men didnt cheat, the wives did. Maybe a mass divorce.

And in the end, there was no good solution. I wasn't thrilled with this version, but there wasn't anywhere to go with it.

They cheated and wanted their men to lump it....and most of these men did....the women got their young studs...and all of the husbands got screwed....and all of the wives got laid.......

Author did a great job with an impossible story. Just no way this ends well.

"We all forgive each other." - What have the men done that they need to be forgiven for? When they were boy toys, THEY were being used, they didn't start out trying to cuckold anybody.

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As dc6370 said, the men should all get hall passes.

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How did Debbie go from being so defiant to being so contrite in a matter of a few hours? She was still defiant after the kids fought!

there was no pride or a pair of balls in this story, except for Jason. but he shouldn't have defended the whore he calls mom

Sorry

Just another CUCK story... NOT ONE husband had the BALLS to DIVORCE the whore wife!!!

Grab the chainsaws and cut down every damn one of the trees.

Then have a bonfire to symbolize that the tradition was toast and the female domination with it.

Mistakes were made.

They are still all cucks

A cuck is a man who accepts the fuck slut cheating on him, the all kept their whores, they are all still cucks

story started well, had promise, them it just wimped out, wife admitted she wanted to do it, should have just walked away,

There is no way to add a BTB sequel to No Reply.

In the original, the protagonist had the clear opportunity to put a stop to it, but he didn't.

He got what he deserved. END OF STORY,.

THIS IS JUST MORE BULLSHIT

Good potential

But it failed badly. The men huffed and puffed. But in the end they folded like wimps.

The women didn't even suffer a little. In the end the woman won. If the story was continued I wouldn't doubt that they would continue the cuckolding behind the husbands back

I agree that there’s no justification for what the women did. And I don’t see how they suffered at all. At a minimum the trees need to go. It seems unlikely that every marriage would have survived. One thing I wondered about was whether the women included the younger wives who have yet to cheat in their meeting while the men were in the shed. Would have been nice to see some of them denounce the older women and say they wanted no part of it. I imagine that some of them would have been bitter that they are going to miss out on ‘their turn’ though. Same with the younger boys who have yet to have their week with the older women so I can see more cheating in the future. Well done on the thought provoking story.

What a facade, all the married couples took a VOW and the empowered wives decided to break it. So take the VOW again and all the wives will be saintly - until they get the hots for a young stud, BS.

What about the fathers? And the daughters had no say in stopping this slut tradition?

The trees need not get cut down?

This is a ridiculous story but what the hell it is a fiction site, with lots of sick twisted minds. 3* at best

Then the unrepentant wives

The original and all the alternates are based on the premise that the husband would go along with the tradition.

The defence for going along with it is divorce would bankrupt him. Surely financial ruin would be a welcome price to pay for getting rid of a cheating bitch.

Add all the pages up, original and alternates you’ve got lots of wasted time and effort, could have covered everything in half a page “My lawyer will be in touch” job done.

General fiction must have at least a tenuous connection to reality for it to be labelled a good story, it gives the reader an anchor they can relate to, this particular group of stories didn’t lol

But I think I need to check out the original and other sequels to really comment on this unusual story.

Wives got no punishment for cheating on their husbands except getting their marriage vows renewed. Poor wives.

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"I told you I would lie to you and go behind your back to cheat. " -Well, wasn't that the truth?

Sorry, not buying it. What penance did the women pay?

We still have Debbie's admission that she would have cheated if he didn't go along with the tradition.

I never thought I'd agree with an anonymous, but it's true. three sad chapters of cuckolds that end with cuckolds. smh. I believe in reconciliation too, but NONE of these women warrant it lol

I liked the one where all the trees were dug up and destroyed. That was a strong symbol.

Strange that the one named "hope" would be the one in which the wife knows about the tradition much longer than the time since the funeral and confesses that she'd have gone for the cheat even if her husband had said no, she wanted that young stuff that bad. They need the women trainers to go with the "trainees" and dig those trees up, then call the husbands in for some rage reduction as they replace the wives in pulling the trees and destroying or otherwise disposing of the monuments marking their cuckolding. This vow renewal or replacement isn't enough considering how readily the original vows got thrown away.

seriously what is with all these dipshit authors who promise new sequels where the story WONT end with the men as a spineless cuck only for the story to end in the EXACT SAME PLACE with the men as spineless cucks

Doesnt matter what road you meander down or how the scenery in between changes - if your end destination is the same it is still the same story

forgiveness can only reach so far, TK U MLJ LV NV

and this one was worse than the last one. Why remarry a slut. The mom would still be dead to me and you keep acting like someone dropped a pencil....not he fucked your wife with your mom's help.......CUCKOLD

But this was not it. The women involved, Debby in particular didn't suffer anything but an argument with the husband.

Maybe reconcile, maybe not (more likely not if it was me) but Debby was exceptionally harsh at the beginning and just doesn't sit well with me that she can just say "I'm sorry" and it all gets forgiven. She did what she did for selfish reasons, believing that her cuckolded husband was powerless to respond in a negative way. She did it knowing that her husband would not grant permission and would be hurt.

He can say "your forgiven" but he'll never forget that she plotted to spend a week fucking that little bastard.

A hall pass for him to screw another woman should have been considered, or perhaps offered as a sign of contrition.

The very least that these bitches should have had to do would be to cut down every tree and burn it themselves, to let them stand would be a constant reminder of the disrespect they had for their husbands.

A post nuptial agreement should also be required, granting the husband permission to divorce at any time without being raped by the court.

I just hate an ending where the wife has had some "in his face" affair & he just rolls over like a beaten dog and accepts it.

the men getting to inaugurate the young women? Turnabout is fair play. Perhaps that should have been the first negotiation and see how the women would have taken that one. Ya know, gander and goose (in this case)

You can't polish a turd.

Not salvageable without divorces or worse.

Don't want anything to do with that family

1 star

I'd of packed my thinks and left. Doing the financial thing, leaving my phone and ring on her bed.

I love your idea. Someone should write that story.

Incredible effort to dovetail this from the original. Respect to MichaelFitzgerald for taking on such a task. *****

I have 1 more to read, I can only hope there is something in that one that solves the problem of the tradition. Post nups tying the women up so tight they struggle to breath, destruction of the trees, maybe some good old-fashioned arse whooping to the young bucks as an example of what is the usual response to fucking a married woman.

Then and only then can they start the road to recovery.

not one of these wives knew what it felt like to walk in her husband's shoes. There is the mistake. The husbands need a one time tradition of their own. Let them get to break in some young lady and make sure the wives knew it was happening. THEN, they could sit down and talk things out. I'd be willing to bet the women would not be as forgiving as they expected their husbands to be.

Cut their trees down, then burn them! A nice alternative is to soak the trees with pitch and gas and burn them alive! In many ways that's better as the dead skeletons would be visible for a damn long time!

Thanks for the story. I respect your effort but if i'd been in the group of men, i'd have insisted on a Post-nuptial from all the women. A zero tolerance, leave with nothing but the clothes on your back agreement. If they were truly wanting to end the tradition and be faithful, they'd have singed it. If not, well...

fuck that crap they all want to fuck around cut em loose. Maybe lose money or whatever they aint family and SURE AS SHIT arent loyal loving wives. self respect cant and pride cant be taken onky given away, Sorry but this story from its start was shit.

As in Jason, Jeff and their contemporaries. Whether they thought their interludes with older married women were random experiences they'd remember fondly in later years or were already feeling guilty and embarrassed around the husbands whose cuckolding they had played a role in, they now know that it was all a lie, that they were set up by their own mothers, and that the women that gave birth to them intend to someday indoctrinate their future wives into their cult of cheating, emasculating harpies. Hopefully, before they become their fathers, the young men of the community will pack bags, leave to make better lives for themselves than their mothers have planned for them, and never return or look back. Maybe they'll even find a way to warn other young men from the outside what they have to look forward to if they fall prey to the young women their own sisters are being raised to become.

As more than one follow-up, including this one, have pointed out, the "tradition" has evolved into a tool by which the wives conspire together to humiliate and threaten their husbands to exert dominance over them. The actual sex is a relatively minor aspect, compared to the long term emotional abuse the downtrodden husbands live with throughout their marriages.

America's divorce courts are filled on a daily basis with people of both genders who have chosen to leave their spouses over far less egregious treatment. It boggles the mind that after four stories this community hasn't seen multiple cases of divorce or husbands who have chosen to remain married but have cut down the trees and used the wood to build themselves separate living quarters where they can continue to support and parent their children while living apart from their wives.

For sharing.

Tennesseered made this point in his comment to NR:H:

"But what this story DOES demonstrate is the abiding interest in wifely infidelity among the LW commentariat. Some love them, and some love to hate them, but the cheating wife story is not going away. CW stories really hit a nerve! Just look at the number of comments taking seriously the fictional antics of imaginary characters! As a beginning author, I take note of this."

I wrote No Reply:Hope in the hope that the debate between BTB and RAAC might get aired out intelligently. Did you know that No Reply, NR:A and NR:H have prompted 689 comments so far, spanning the spectrum of opinion. Speaking from both points of view many comments do that, So from my point of view, NR:H is a success.

In NR:H, two of the questions I asked where what crime was committed and what punishment was fair? There's an intensely political debate on the "offenses" the women committed, and how they relate to past male sins. Putting that aside, how do we punish the women fairly? Some say, cut down the trees. Other say, men get equal cheating rights. Then there's, send the young girls off to sleep with men. How does any of that help to balance the scale?

What if Sam and Will lost it during the barn meeting? What if they got their assault rifles from the truck and lit Bill's house up with the wives inside? Columbine, Sandy Hook, the Orlando night club, the Las Vegas concert - it happens all the time. Why couldn't happen in this story? So, would that punishment (shoot them all) be too much? Or too little? If we just make them cut down the trees, do the wives have to drag the tree trunks to the road, using ropes and sleds? What if they physically can't? Do they get tied across the stumps and whipped? Do they get their heads shaved like the French women who collaborated with the Nazi's? The pictures of that are on YouTube. Is temporary disfigurement enough> How about permanent disfigurement? Cliteroctomy? How about punitive tattoos? What man feels better about his life, himself, his loved ones, his future if this is part of his legacy? How does he boast to his children later of what he did to their mother? How does this heal anything?

In NR:H, at the end, everybody has lost almost everything. The men have their rage and the women have their defiance. What did that get them? When there's nothing left to destroy and every path you might take looks like disaster, maybe the answer is to agree to stop, to do nothing, to let wounds heal, and see what survives. Maybe it's nothing that matters but maybe not. Maybe something survives that matters.

NR:H does not promise that even one marriage survives. Perhaps, Bill and Debbie part ways. Maybe every marriage fails. At least, their failure won't be driven by hate. It's not much, and it sounds like slow death, even to my ears. But don't count hope or love out.

Again, thanks for putting it all out there. Whatever it's flaws, the LW site has more passionate writers and readers than any other like it, anywhere and for that I'm grateful.

At some point, a man is NOT going to let his son do that tradition thing.

Maybe more.

I wouldn't.

What would have happened if the roles were reversed if the husbands spent a week with young women in order to make them better wives. Just wondering..HB

I totally enjoyed the original, and this follow up. Well done. Who is it, that given an inch doesn't try to take a mile? That's what happened here. I actually went along with the original, not that I have ever done it. The theory is great, not counting the trees.

There is a culture out there that has this as a common practice, or so I've read.

...about the other side of the coin? Why aren't the husbands 'educating' all the young daughters?

As others noted, sudden change of wife's position without explanation is a flaw, as is no atonent by the female collective.

The teenage boys (young men) who fucked married women were wrong, if they knew she was married. If those boys were encouraged by their parents, their parents suck.

So if a couple is married and owns a business and one spouse tells you it is OK to take merchandise from the business without paying, do you do it?

As written, these women are oddballs. Most gals I know wouldn't be a part of this. A few would joke about it, almost none would do it.

None of the few men true Friends (not just buddies or co workers) would agree to this as as a married man, even if they were douchey enough to do it as a boy.

Tough Ho to row?

Need a more effective time "paddle"

They're all morally compromised. As young men they willingly had sex with married women, then as husbands they stood by and did nothing while their wives took their turns with each others' sons. Their moral outrage after the fact is hollow and has no credibility.

The only viable paths to a decent BTB ending require a protagonist who has not been a party to the cult "tradition." Maybe an innocent son who doesn't succumb to seduction because he has a GF he won't cheat on, or a husband who was never a boytoy because he came from outside the cult. Either would be credible characters to condemn the practice and bring it crashing down once they realize that they're being set up by their mothers and/or wives.

What do the husbands get out of this negotiation? The wives get to fuck a young guy for a week and the husbands get humiliated. The negotiated settlement should have been the wives stop their crap and the cuckold husbands get the young family girls for a week as a settlement. Goose and Gander solution. What guys and gals did before they were married is not in contention here.

ReedRichards wrote: “You attempted some reconciliation, in standard American culture, for an original that was about a separate ‘clan’ culture, and it worked just about as well as that description implies.”

I really like the distinction that you make as to a possible difference from mainstream suburban US culture. I want to offer that I don’t think that this is a clan culture. If that was the case there would have been a shared public understanding for this practice—the practice would have been integrated into the life of the clan. Our hero is surprised and shocked and responds in a western style masculinity manner, hardly “ clannish” in outlook. Do you believe this is really a clash of cultures given the lack of transparency as to what was happening? Also, what was the basis for starting this “tradition”? How was it supposed to have emerged organically from the life of the clan, as you might say? As it is, it feels like a suburban underlay with odd or clannish elements that don’t really make sense ...

The ending just came out of nowhere and made zero sense to me. A more realistic outcome to how things went would have been: Jason in jail, Jeff left town, some divorces, some v cold marriages on paper only, and a few where real forgiveness took place. Such institutionalised lies and disrespect does not get fixed easily. I still prefer HDK’s original by a long way. 2* for trying. Ken

The women cucked their husbands and got away with it. What Debbie said is true, when your angry, you say what you mean. She is on the prowl to find her next boy toy. She admitted that was what she wanted, she really enjoyed cheating, and Bill can never trust her again.

Her first set of wedding vows meant nothing to her, the second will have the same meaning to her.

Thanks for writing the story, I had great hope that the wives would get theirs, but alas, another cuck story. Suck it up Bill, you in for a long, loney ride in infeldity .

The womens attitude needs serious adjustments. Maybe something like a mens union here. Empty all cash, all men move out, no divorce. Blacklist them. Get new girlfriends. Needs to be severely drastic and final. If it happened to me and kids were gone, id either be gone or move in a girlfriend. Lots of ways to payback. Doing nothing is the wrong message. Id be done with ol mom too.

ReedRichard's comment that this story is about 'clan culture' grafted onto modern American culture strikes me as about right. The story premise is awkward and doesn't work for many reasons. (Maybe change the setting to a thousand years ago in some harsh environment, like northern Scandinavia, where some clan survival advantage might accrue.) But what this story DOES demonstrate is the abiding interest in wifely infidelity among the LW commentariat. Some love them, and some love to hate them, but the cheating wife story is not going away. CW stories really hit a nerve! Just look at the number of comments taking seriously the fictional antics of imaginary characters! As a beginning author, I take note of this.

The problem with all these stories is that the husband weakly acquiesces to the "tradition," then has belated "willing cuckold's remorse" years after enjoying his own youthful escapade with an older cheating wife who was cuckolding her down beaten husband. Telling the story from the POV of a young intended "boytoy" who resists being seduced by his older neighbor lady, then finds out it was all a setup and his own mother intends that one day his future wife is supposed to do the same thing to him might just work.

I appreciate a new effort to make d this story in a satisfactory way. While there were new “revelations” as to why it is still trying to fix a fundamentally flawed familial dynamic.

I think that it may have begun as an innocent experiment but spun out of control through succeeding generations where it became an entitlement with the females of the family. Eventually a generation was bound to come up where questioning family values and traditions would collapse the house of cards. Doomed from the start. I’m sure others will keep trying to solve this plot, I think that is great. Maybe they will succeed.

I understand the financial and custody part of this dilemma but the problem remains.... There are some VERY SICK AND DISGUSTING PEOPLE IN THIS FAMILY. I cannot see this situation EVER being resolved! Calmed? sure! but the depth of disrespect and betrayal remain. When the chains of the legal system are loosened, stakes will be erected and bitches WILL BE BURNED! This was a valiant attempt at composing a resolution to this 'tradition' but it is hopeful to the point of denial.

To find out about this kind of evil corruption years after the fact would be bad enough but to have a spouse say they wanted it, and would do it even if it was specifically forbidden by their spouse is BEYOND BEING FORGIVEN, It is written in stone and deserves punishment. It was a tall order to attempt a good end to this mess but whatever is done it will continue to cause pain, ever heard of the Capulets and Montagues? sORRY, I'm NOT buying your 'solution' 2*, one for the try and another for the courage to try!

interesting comments ONLY. Interesting as well RR.

Yes, TX Military Man is hilarious but of course the double standard for girls vs boys would nuke that plan.

As I've said before, just take a small chainsaw, girdle the trees down low and let them stand there dead until the wives figure out how to get rid of the trees themselves. If they pull them out and replant, girdle them again. All the while of course hiding money as fast as possible.

Also it occurs to me the kid who beat hell out of the latest little fucker must be a total bad ass to fuck him up that bad before anyone could grab him.

That a large bottle of whiteout or a delete key can't cure.

HDK wrote a controversial story with essentially an 18 year old boy signing onto a contract with his penis that he didn't understand and with a long delayed payment plan that fucks him over. We had a dozen such auto dealers like that outside our military base. People of all genders sign up for shitty deals like that all the time.

What is the wife paying? It is like that statement 'I will make it up to you.'

Was she planning on being a subpar wife before they married but now she gets her boy toy, she plans on being a 'good' wife?

In this scenario, what is the emotional, physical and spiritual price that these women are paying? I can't see any.

Now if there was a quid pro quo, that would be something else. Every wife watches every other wife for infidelity. Quality control on the cooking. Essentially, if the women were all doing the Stepford Wife routine, or even the illusion of the Japanese wife, that...is a price. But it wasn't made manifest.

So if we comment negatively about people being systemically abused by a one sided shitty deal...that is not the unreasonable position to take.

it was cooking along so good and then wifey turned on a dime from haughty bitch to remorseful penitent in the blink of an eye. It's like you left out the middle of the story. Why would she change from bitch to penitent wife? You gave us/her no reason whatsoever that I can see. Did she finally figure out the men's union was going ruin her life? WTF were her motivations for seeing the light? This was headed toward being the best of the no reply stories and it seems like you ran out of time or something?

but the selfishness and disnhonesty of the women was not served by this. They needed to pay a price, and I dont see that here. It was kiss, kiss and forget and move on. A better tale, certainly not as credible, would be for the husbands to have a week going forward with whoever they wanted out of the group, or maybe women outside the family, idk, but that would've balanced the scales a bit.

When the husband moved out his wife was defiant. He had his meeting with the other hisbands and she was defiant. When her son may be in legal trouble for assault she was defiant. Then as she was elected to be the representative of the women... she was crying. There was no logical reason for her feelings to change so fast. She doesn’t feel bad for what she has done. Instead she worries for the loss of her marriage. Thet leap in her thinking made your solution impossible.

The remarriages was a good solution to a huge family problem. I think living in two separate areas, married but broken may also have been an ending. As it is, yours just didn’t hold true.

I really like all the different versions of this story. It’s a strange concept and makes for some interesting thoughts about “what if.” Thanks for giving something other than dumb wife/ wimp husband cuckold and BTB a try.