All Comments on 'Collateral Damage'

Very literate and realistic. Enjoyed it very much . Keep writing .

The old Alienation of Affection lawsuit does not exist. It has been banned in something like 48 or 49 states because it was used as an extortion tool. In the few places it remains, it is heavily restricted.

I liked this story. thank You for wtiting it.

Its amazing the lack of understanding and compassion not to mention a total lack of understanding of human nature these right wing woman hating authors have. The name of this site is LitEROTICA and these stories are about as erotic as the stinking piles of dog shit they resemble.

were well thought out and nicely intertwined.

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Collateral damage is a perfect metaphor for the dissolution and aftershocks of marriage destroyed by infidelity.

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The story is quite well written which many, if not most, of the so called erotic stories are not.

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The name of the site implies both Literature and Erotica. There are damn few authors with the inclination and ability to provide both. Without well written stories like this, the site would wither on the vine from lost ad revenue that readership numbers provide.

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The anonymous comment on alienation of affection being dead as a valid law in virtually all states is also off the mark. Even a few minutes research will show it is alive and well, and used, in many states. If anyone wants the info, let me know and I'd be happy to provide it.

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Kudos, coaster2, for a nice, literate, read.

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Regards, Jack

In fact it is only 42 states that have abolished the Alienation of affections lawsuit. Of those that removed it there are more than 30 that have instituted other recourse for wronged spouses. In the mid 80's the Alienation suit was being used as a legal blackmail tool by lawyers and was being abused. The new regulations (each state calls it something else) are much stricter on what may be recovered from a spouses lover and the requirements of proof are harsher.

As for the authors being a misogynist I'm sure that the lesbian who wrote the comment thinks that all women should have affairs behind their husbands backs and the husbands should be understanding and that the betrayal was really just his misplaced ego right?

This story flowed well. It was well written and thought out...BUT it read like a narrative. It lacked the emotional content that would turn a cold "just the facts" story into an exceptional read. Even the sex was cold and that says a lot. The husband was judge and executioner - After 23 years of what supposedly was a good marriage, he finds out his wife is being unfaithful with his sister-in-law. He states it was disgusting, though I'm not sure if he was simply disgusted because of the cheating or because the infidelity was a lesbian affair. We do not get a hint of why the wife was unfaithful and why this kind of affair? Did she suddenly wake up one morning and become bisexual? Was this just curiosity? Was she unhappy or bored in the marriage? Did it even matter? I wanted to sympathize with the husband but he was so cold that I couldn't. And that is strange.

<p>A flaming liberal presuming to lecture readers here at LE. How very illuminating a look into a stupid viewpoint. Actually, it is slut wife stories that are not erotic. Wimp husband stories are even more repugnant. If our liberal wimp lecturer is excited by such, it's indicative of a deep psychological disorder that can only be cured by analysis and many years of counseling. I hope liberal lecturer guy gets that help immediately. </p>

<p>Now, that doesn’t mean this story is, in any sense, a good one. Actually, it’s not but that’s because the writer doesn’t have enough skill to do a better one. This “story” is a standard type of daydream from someone who’s been badly bullied by someone bigger and meaner. It’s all male domination and nuclear revenge. That’s not a story. Beyond that, the story line is weak (and has been done a LOT out here), the dialogue is poor and unrealistic, and the characterization is badly lacking. Dislike this story if you want, but dislike it for how it was developed, not because it doesn’t include a wimp husband. The liberal lecturer forgets the first part of the website’s name comes from “literature.”</p>

<p>Ron123XYZ@foreveranonymous.naturally</p>

and as most of you know I dont give out 100s to a lot of stories and writers !!!

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It is NOT a surprise that the asshole poster mysoginistic right wing rubbish doesnt even know the facts about alienation of affection legal actions. But then again liberal Idiots... and not all liberals are idiots ... would LIE out of ignorance

I found your story to be good entertainment. It is wonderful to see a portrayal of lesbian infidelity being shown as the same as heterosexual betrayal. It gives the reader the opportunity to consider if they view these acts as equally damaging in their own minds. We do live in a double standard society and we should address that as a real problem or mind set.<p>The pain has to be dealt with to move on and this is not being done by the participants of this story as we read it.<p> I do feel a little more emotion could be entwined in the dialogue but you did it well enough to let us see some of the pain and heartache.<p>I don’t believe I have read anything else you have written but will keep an eye out for future works you post. Thank you for your writing and entertainment.<p>PT

Sorry, but I found this whole tale depressing. Virtually no actual sexual content, lots of scowling and angry words, no hope of a path ahead; hell, a lot of guys would pay to watch their wives put on a floorshow like that!

'coaster':<p>I too appreciated infidelity being treated as infidelity regardless of the lover's gender. The analogy of the detonation a bomb with the disintegration of the marriage was original and appropriate.<p>I especially enjoyed the first portion of your story during which the protagonist and his brother discover the mutual infidelity of their wives. The dialog was realistic and the apprehension they experienced was quite palpable. The protagonist's introspection during the discovery process was interesting. I didn't enjoy nearly as much the confrontation of the wife by the husband. From possessing a humanity which exhibited vulnerability and encouraged empathy, he became more machine than man. This is not to say that I didn't agree with his viewpoint nor the consequences which followed. The change in him was just too abrupt for me, too Jekyll-and-Hyde like. From how I imagined him from the first part of the story, I thought that he would have shown much more emotion and angst in relating his decision with her. The dialog became trite and the action, the consequences, described too much as narrative. Overall though, better than many of the submissions in this genre. Thanks for sharing.

The three years later and the last paragraph fucked this story.

Anonymous said "<I>he old Alienation of Affection lawsuit does not exist. It has been banned in something like 48 or 49 states...</I> That's almost true, at least according to legalmatch.com who said "<I>The only states where this lawsuit can still be brought are: Hawaii, Illinois, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Dakota, and Utah. All the other states have abolished it either by statute or case law.</I>"

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With respect to coaster2's story, it was decently written though the characters felt very mechanical, acting almost by rote as if they had no regrets over the ending of the marriage. I appreciated the bomb analogy and the collateral damage that divorces do to children, relatives and friends. The destruction of Bob's and Karen's marriage was an unfortunate outgrowth of Caroline's infidelity. The aftermath was painful to behold, and the individuals involved were bitter and unhappy. It was truly a sad ending.

A rather distant and unfeeling story.

The last paragraph is pretty melodramatic as well as being false. The author of his own misfortune? Please.

Try again, and give your characters a chance!

The story is told with less passion then the husband displayes with his actions. Could have used a little more discussion between husband and wives and brothers. The Whys and the real feelings of wives on being caught and their feelings about the aftermath. very good writing, thanks!

I think this is a well written story. I disagree with the comments about the lack of emotion. As others have observed, Mark tells this story in a very detached way. He clearly has not come to terms with the break-up of his marriage. I strongly feel that the infidelity has so deeply affected Mark that he has ruthlessly supressed his emotions. This effect is the most serious damage caused. He is acutely aware of the damage done to everyone in his family and this story ably illustrates how each person's reaction has caused them to withdraw into themselves, drastically fragmenting the whole family. The only person who seems to have reached some sort of rationalisation is Catherine, the daughter. This is a highly charged situation which, while it remains unresolved, (as it is, emotionally), is, in its own way, an unexploded device. I think there is milage in this, yet. Look forward to more from you C2. Maybe something with C4?

<p>Having watched the imploding of over 10-15 marriages personally from at ground level because of cheating, I thought the analogy was right on. In the end everyone can possilby be victims, the cheater can be the only one, or only the innocent mate could be the only victim.</p>

<p>I hate to say it, but most cheaters don't have anything negative happen to them or go on to be just as happy <i>after</i> they cheat as they were <i>before</i> they ever did.</p>

<p>Take my sister in law for example:</p>

<p>She's living with a guy from when she is 18-21. Then one day out of the blue she tells the family she has found true love and is getting married to this new guy, no one in the family has ever met or has ever heard about before, while her boyfriend is out of town. Up until that moment was living in a house she shared with her boyfriend, but is now marrying new guy that weekend. One month later she is telling everyone she was pregnant, but she concieved on their wedding night. Uhh huh sure she did.</p>

<p>But that didn't last long because she was soon cheating on her first husband with her lover(s) from work while she was pregnant. But before they could started the paper work to get divorced she had her newest boyfriend (and eventual 2nd husband), and his family, come over to the hospital to witness the birth of her first child. All while her husband and his <i>family</i> was there to witness the birth of his first child. Imagine everyone surprise, including mine, that she did this. We didn't even know she was cheating, and he didn't have proof till then. Then they got divorced, and our state is a no fault state, so the first husband got hosed in the divorce. And then she married her boyfriend. She lived with him for about a year (during which she got pregnant by her new husband and had a 2nd child). So now she has 2 kids a year apart, and then she left her new husband with <b>both</b> of the kids (who are under two years of age at this point) <i>twice</i> to move in with other men both times she physicially left him. And after both times she came back home to her husband and he took her back. Have to wonder if she was doing other guys before she moved out. She had to find these guys somewhere. I to this day have wonder what her current husband was thinking before she left, after she left, and now that she's back home with them all.</p>

<p>And now 3 years later she talks about how lucky she was to have a great life with her family. I about laughed myself into a coma while my wife was talking to me one day when this was all first happening. She said "How can she do this to her husband and the boys". I said "What I find funny and intresting was that her 'New' husband is the guy she cheated on her first husband with. Forgive me if I don't have any sympathy for him at all. He knew what he was doing, and getting into, when he signed on."</p>

<p>Did the boyfriend get screwed? Yep, he came home to an empty house and had no idea of why. Did first husband get screwed? Sure he did, but he kind of earned that one. How about the second husband? Yep he got screwed as well. But she has, to the best of my knowledge, had nothing <b>negative</b> happen to her at all, and now she's gotten to enjoy cheating on, and with, multiple people and, to put it in her words, is now ready to settle down. But look at all the victims in the wake of her destruction.</p>

<p>So a story like this doesn't really strike me as "dry" because it is more realistic than most of us would like, and usually is what happens to someone who destroy's marriages.</p>

<p>And I personally don't see Karen as a byproduct of Caroline's cheating. She could have walked way. She could have done any number of things, but going back for 2nd's changed her, in my mind, from being a victim to a willing participant. Sorry, but "victims" don't willing aid in their torture."</p>

<p>Great Story Coaster2</p>

-Risq

Finally a story with real men a not wimps. Having said that, I believe her ex husband could have given her some slack and still held her accountable for her actions without looking like a wimp. As she stated she would never have cheated on him with another man and perhaps he should have taken that into account. All and all a nice story. Cheers.

So much was left unstated and unanswered in the story, and yet we come away feeling that we know the truth of the matter. If there is any one small criticism I would have of this very well written tale, it is that even more time should have been devoted to the pain felt by the innocent victims of both betrayals.

Okay, am I the only one who thinks that this is a good thing?

Gee, the wives are getting it on, why not make it a foursome, adding in a little guilt.

I don't know, maybe it was just me, but I would be all over this, these two women, the perfect scenario (lol).

As usual, the writing is...first rate and professional. This begs to be a much longer piece, novel length.

Great job and a wonderful read from a very talented writer.

This story captured very thoroughly the consequences of cheating. My advice to Mark is to (1) forgive her, and (2) find somebody new (get a new girlfriend). Saddest thing of all in the story is Bob and Karen - is unfortunate that they couldn't get past her cheating.

Author - you are to be commended on your in depth reiteration of what happens when selfish infidelity with either sex ruins the capsule of marital agreement - for the entire family.<P>

It counters the multitude of the absurd non-reality often found here and elsewhere. It is particulary relevant with regard to lesbianism or same sex being as much an infidelity as any other. In fact as a friend once said to me, I can't begin to compete with her lesbian lover - I don't have the mindset nor the equipement. So in many ways it is much worse than normal infidelity which isn't so dark as same sex.<P>

So KUDO's Author - for bringing it up in such an in depth way what many glorify or avoid - same sex infidelity. Your fallout encapsulated the issues of respect and trust lost in a very tangible way both in family life as well as business and the cummunity at large.<P>

Author - your talent, time and realities are appreciated in offset of the else here.<P>

With Very High Regard

Bob had a way to keep his marriage he could have tried counceling and Caroline could have tried that also why did`nt she goto counceling withMark maybe she was sufferning from depression and it messed with her head did Mark or Bob ever think of that? Also did Mark or bob ever think of coming home early during lunch and spend some time with his wife or taken her to lunch with him? Think about it.

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PAT in atlanta GA said

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<i> Also did Mark or bob ever think of coming home early during lunch and spend some time with his wife or taken her to lunch with him? </i>

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Pat are you really fucking stupid? she cheated on her husband for months b/c he didnt stop by for Lunch?

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oh my god!

painful........ 'tis truly a sword that cuts both ways, as the husband himself said.......

no one wins ...all lose... but yes it had to be done

I love a happy ending, although it seemed a little too depressing. Most guys would get over it and be on the way to happiness within a year.

This story was doing well until the last paragraph, which for me, changed the whole tone of the piece.<p>

"Author of my own misfortune"? "I alone assembled the bomb"? It seems like the narrator is blaming himself for standing up for himself. That's a crappy message.<p>

To stick with the analogy, the bomb had already been created by her infidelity and was just waiting to be triggered. He's just the poor schmuck who tripped the detonator. He could only have stopped the ensuing explosion by abandoning his own self-respect and wimping out. Which would be rather like throwing himself on the grenade when there's no one else in the kill radius except the bomber herself.<p>

No, rather than blaming himself, he should put the blame where in clearly lies: on her.

A subtitle for your story could be "Damn if Do, Damn if you Don't." Mark could have stuck his head in the sand and decided to ignore the signs of Caroline's infidelity. Of course if his wife suspected that he was turning a blind eye to her tryst with Karen things would have gotten worse. You did an excellent job of showing how "it is just sex" can effect other people's lives. No doubt some commenters in the reconciliation-at-all-cost camp would have wanted Mark to give her another chance. But what is funny but true is many people think that the victim must absolve the cheater of his or her acts. I think that you must forgive the person who wronged you for your own peace of mind and health but that doesn't mean that you have to live with that person.____________________________________________

Bottom Line: It is the wronged spouse's choice to live perhaps with regrets or doubts. Most people will choose regrets rather than live with always wondering if your spouse is cheating on you again._______________________

Great story because you show that the choice is not easy._

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He sounds like he was writing his own suicide note. I was the one that caused all the heartache. That's bullshit. It was the unfaithful one that caused the demise of the marriage. Apparently, the author has never heard of anyone continuing on with their life and moving on with their own relationships. Yeah, divorce is devestating. But it isn't the end of your life.

It is remarkable how little drama in the modern sense we have here. We all got used to the psychological drama where to the most part characters come to confront each other and there is some change coming out of it. And yet despite the fact that almost to the end of the story (and the latter part was not the best, IMO) the story progresses much like a Tragedy, where the fate of the people involved is known, their clash is inevitable and the doom is devastating. You just sit back and watch how things are being set to motion in their unavoidable course. Strangely, even as we know what’s coming, we watch, catching our breath the upcoming catastrophe. We do it just like generations of readers and viewers before us have done watching or reading Tragedies.

I find the combination of an American Tragedy or more broadly put, a modern Tragedy, quite intriguing though. It almost sounds like an oxymoron. It seems that the Author is pointing to the question of degrees of freedom vs. determinism in our choices and course of action we take. We would like to think that indeed we are the authors of our fate. But as someone else has pointed out, could the husband have prevented the whole tragedy (or part of it), had he chosen not to search for his wife’s whereabouts? I don’t think so. The real “Bomb”, I believe, is the lie. It’s inherently: ontologically and psycho locally does not sit within reality and is therefore doom to fail, not as a matter of a morality judgment but because we are not built to calculate and control all the variables that sooner or later always expose our lies, one way or another. All that the husband did, was exposing it sooner rather than later, – and the same goes for the rest of the outcomes.

We like to think that we have much more freedom than we actually have. The husband initially made the mistake in the opposite direction. He believed that he was the author of his fait through his actions (true but to what degree?). That overreach lead him to an unjustified sense of guilt, which eventually lead him to the opposite mistake – not realizing the degrees of freedom that he still had – being free of guilt and with many options for possibilities of good life in the future.

You can clearly account him –with his devastated mind as the last victim of the wife betrayal.

The concept of shock waves from the image of the explosion reminded of the famous African expression: “It takes a village to raise a child”. Here in a dark reversal of that expression, we are shown that any fundamental damage we inflict on the people who are close to us (like a betrayal in marriage) inevitably inflicts pain and damage on people who are connected to us and to those who are connected to them sometimes in the order of a small village. It is rare, especially in the uber –individualistic US, which likes to think about itself in terms of the “Marlboro Man”, do we see such a strong case for the view that we are all connected and inter –dependent, whether we like to acknowledge that or not.

There was something about the tone of the writing that fell very flat for me. I had no sense that any characters in this story were at all realistic. The dialogue seemed stilted and overly formal. The background information provided to round out the story just seemed plugged in for form's sake.

I confess that some of my feeling for the story may have been influenced by my opinion that the protagonist was a major putz..lol!

"Oh, woe is me! My perfect and untainted love of 23 years has been irrevocably tarnished by your thoughtless betrayal! You've destroyed me utterly and all my feelings of love have been dashed against the rocks of your treacherous shore! Your vile disregard for the sanctity of our Holy Vows means that I must now rip apart the life we've built together...ruin you professionally and financially...eviscerate my brother's life, and live a solitary and emotionally desolate existence...but at least I will be doing what's right, as a man should!" Oy! Give me a break!

Actually, I've read a few of these absolutist stories where any infidelity is unforgiveable and spouse operates from a position of principle that are far better reads, so I think it really comes down to the essay-like quality of the writing. This could have been better. Hang in there.

The assembly was by the actions of his wife, he but got second hand evidence of those actions that assembled the bomb. The detonation was the wifes continued affair with her sister in law, he but watched the detonation by walking in. And finally he did ride the shock wave caused by his wifes actions but he did it ir remarkably good form. Very few men of morals and/or ethics would have been so calm and in his own way, forgiving.

One anonymous comment stated the story was poorly written. I (and the majority of readers) strongly disagree. This was one of the few stories with good spelling, good grammar, good syntax, and good construction. Perhaps some of the flowery imagery was missing (it wasn't Shakespeare, it wasn't Nici, it wasn't AngiqueSophie), but this was, after all, a short story, not a novel or novelette. The coldness of Mark Thorpe when dealing with his wife Caroline was perhaps idealized, but I can imagine doing the same thing in a similar situation, the dispassionate calmness resulting from an attempt to insulate oneself from the reality of the terrible, illicit relationship between one's spouse and her lover. I know some men would just 'shrug it off' and move on, but others are afraid of being hurt again, unsure of trusting another woman, unwilling to take a risk of being placed in the same, humiliating position. Watching two women is a sexy thought that quite a few men admit would be a great fantasy and turn-on. In reality-land, it is not sexy finding your partner whom you loved and trusted committing a betrayal with whomever. And I think no one really knows until they are God-forbid faced with something like this. But I can say with certainty that this type of thing happens in real life -- I've seen examples. Frankly, Mark made his decision (he is used to making difficult decisions in order to make his business a success) based on his feelings and his observations. He knew counseling was not worthwhile for him. If that was his feeling, then counseling indeed would not have helped. I think it would not for me either.

if he runs his business like his life,he's in trouble.one problem and he talking like its' the end of the world.look writer there women breaking doors down to get to good men so stop trying to make us feel sorry when this shit happen.she was a twisted bitch and he kick her ass out,good.find ms. right and move on.

She sounds like she'd be a lot of fun if you are self-assured enough to let enjoy herself with women, and she probably welcome sharing me with her women friends.

Loved your story, your characters were real and the out come was real life.

You could have tried to get Caroline to goto therapy first then if that didnt work out you could divorce then you could say you tried to reconsile your marriage.

These two guys are obviously living in the dark ages!!

One should have thought the world moves ahead to be more openminded. But obvious not so.

I guess this is your way of testing 'moral values' :) Well if you are a man (normal) you will know that bisexuality between women is almost accepted amongst most men. Why? Sh* knows, it seems to be more accepted amongst women themselves too. Could be genes, could be upbringing but as far as I know it's the same all over the globe. So yeah, it was original but I don't believe it would have been this harsh in real life. This would and should have gone to coucelours, maybe Caroline would have been divorced but Karen and Bob should have made it. Cheers Yoron

This was a very good story. Love can not be turned off and on. Usually it can only be killed slowly. He did what any sane man would have to do. In the end her actions killed his love.

He couldn't satisfy his wife, his pride is hurt when she plays away and he isn't man enough to try to repair the marriage. So he throws his dummy out of the pram.

Might have been a 'reasonable' attitude 50 years ago.

He's a wimp.

W.T.F. would you be married. Great story, the only wimp is mr. james, he must get off on his wife fucking around.

The idea of two brothers being destroyed as collateral damage

to their wives' affair is a good one. The wife really need to see a shrink if after all these months she still believes that she loves her husband and that it was much better with him. The real problem is not who, or what , or how many times but rather the destruction of all trust. It is difficult to imagine someone really being able to get past the proof their partner can not be trusted....

Having a bisexul wife or girlfriend is a slice of heaven, assuming her only outside partners are female and she still enjoys herterosex as much as before. These two guys ruined their lives by not grabbing an opportunity. With single-female lovers who wanted to include the husbands, they could have lived the American wet dream. Instead they are alone, alienated, and bitter.<br><br>

Of course the wives could have handled it better too, but talking about it with them before they got started.

The problem was the lies the wife told! why be married if you can trust your spouse with your life?

A Breath of fresh air. The only thought you could have added is when she said I love you. Would have been. I'm sure glad you don't hate me. I shudder to think what you would have done.

I liked it. Not enough explaining as to what actually happened. And most important. Why not tell us, the readers who made the mysterious phone call who tipped him off. That held one of the most interesting plot lines of your story ... and then you threw it away. ... After you explained the son's reaction to his own mom, I thought for sure he, or one of his friends had made the call to his father. Still a good story.

but I agree with commentators who believe husband wrong for detonating the bomb.It's bizarre,scary and disturbing but not enough to be irreparable.Of course,I love lesbos!Pistolpackinpete

The assemblying of the bomb was not his and his alone. She assembled the bomb by her own actions. She set off the bomb by her own actions. She destroyed all four lives and the lives of their children. Why have a husband blame himself for the very stupid actions of two women. Can you imagine a very different ending if the two women before getting deeply involved had gotten the two brothers interested in having the two women act for them together. It may not have worked but sneaking off, lying, betraying, cheating, deceiving, and in the end by humiliating the two husbands the women destroyed all of their lives. Not he, they!

Sad,that a mistake could ruin so many lives.Both theguilty and cheating spouse!

himself for what his wife did and caused, true political correctness carried to idiocy. The question he did not ask, and she did not in any way answer, how much did she hate him to harm him this way? And the natural secondary to that, why did she want to harm herself that she did this? Put another way a sane individual could not have done what she did and she has to be mentally ill.

Not all good stories are happy ones. Thanks for your work and for your very good story.

At least he wasn't a wimp!!!

I don't view lesbian sex or affair the same as cheating, but even without my wife comung out and telling me I knew she was bi to began with. Being the voyeur that I am, I wired my own house for sight and sound.

Good work as usual Coaster!

this should be humour and satire. The guy is creeping round his house guided by whether lights are on at half past one in the afternoon.

Perhaps the setting is at the poles? Or is that where the author is?

They're downstairs, surely the pictures showed a bedroom setting?

He's so upset when it should be obvious there is no risk to his marriage. All that is needed is to ask his wife what's going on and take it from there.

I'll have to read a bit more to see if it gets any worse!

Unlike most of the cheating wife stories here, this tale does not condone cheating nor let the cheater off with no more than a slap on the wrist. Sorry tale..but only because its smacks of real life.

Excellent..you are to be commended!

what you dont want to hear in battle (INCOMING) TK U MLJ LV NV

as usual, thanks author for different take on infidelity - the toughest part would be telling the kids without damaging their view of the mother and aunt, insisting she do it was probably the least damaging course of action

it was a "PUDDY CAT" they saw, TK U MLJ LV NV

I think that I would have been rather excited had I found my wife with another woman. Two is better than one! So what that she was with another woman. The two male characters in this story seem like fragile wimps instead of real men.

Hartless husband!!!!!!! She.s better off without him.

This guy is closer to his brother than his wife.

Why on earth didn't they stay single and live together?

They could have avoided a lot of pain for everyone including me.

The comments that cast the husband as the bad guy are incredible.

Let me see if I got it all right? The affair goes on for 6 months or more. There is no remorse by the wife at having the affair. I could only interpret that she was horrified at being caught. The lies of her working on Friday afternoons getting ready for weekend showings were priceless. She allowed her lover to do things to her that were off limits to her husband. Afterwards she can only say she loves him??? All evidence to the contrary.

In my mind the story spelled out the inconvenient truth that divorce, however much it is justified, burns everyone it touches. Everyone is changed or damaged and while time allows scar tissue to cover the wounds the wound is nonetheless there. Therefore there is an underlying sense that the story contains a cautionary imperative. Be careful what you do, for it will have effects that may consume you in the end. The two wives in this story ignored that truth to the detriment of not only themselves but everyone around them.

It is with no small degree of amusement that I read commentators chastising the husband who is the central character in this tale for his unforgiveness and singleminded casting off of his wife. There is a sense, to some, that the fact that the affair is a lesbian one somehow mitigates the betrayal and contempt of the wife. I, for one, do not share in this attitude. Infidelity is infidelity, no matter which actors are upon the stage. The role is the same, no matter who plays it. The simple fact is that the wife gave something that belonged exclusively to her husband to someone else without his knowlege or consent. The cover up of this betrayal and the degree of time that it went on also are factors in the decision that the husband had to consider. The man reached the conclusion that he could not take these events for anything other than what they were and continue in a marriage that he considered damaged beyond all repair. He then proceeded to divest himself of this faithless partner while doing the best that he could to minimize the damage to himself. It is not for us to question this decision or the actions following it. Each person finding themselves in his position must choose how to react according to their own values. There is no universal standard that applies to one and all.

I considered this a well written story with an entertaining plot and solid character descriptions. As I have already mentioned, the story had a strong and clear message on the subject of both marital infidelity and divorce. Indeed, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

that butt was now open for his use. she could be a real whore in the bedroom, and hell an extra woman in a fuck seccion can add a little pussy licking to your cock and her clit as you fuck her.

the fallout occurs one should be under cover or some sort of protection or distance, TK U MLJ LV NV

What a long boring story. Sorry I think this one is a dud.

I would be bothered by the breaking of vows and the lying, but this guy is reacting like she just screwed a football team. I might even feel the need for punishment or divorce, but I sure wouldn't act like she just kick-started the "end times".

a cheater is a cheater and forever will be a cheater, active or not. He didnt assemble the bomb she did. He didnt destroy the two familys, the women did. I guess political correctness calls for the innocent to feel guilty but its total BS. The guilty are those whose actions destroy and those that enable them by recommending forgiveness, counseling, or getting over it. To those who enable by their actions ands may I wish you the same life experiences where the you love destroys your entire life and what it stood for. Paraphrasing an old saying, dont say a word until after you have walked in that persons shoes. You dont know how it feels or what it means to them. An no fault divorce was authored by cheaters wanting not to be hurt by their actions.

Very well written and I could feel the emotional pain. Thanks.

I know that as a responsible adult, I am the author of my own misfortune. This line alone turns it into a cuckold lovers tale of woe. She was a cheating whore and yet you and many of the ball less, pussy whipped cum guzzlers are mad at the husband. I hope some of you never get a DNA done on your kids, you just may be shocked to find out who's the daddy. But it won't matter you'll keep on being cuck, cuck, cucked anyway.

my kids turned out not to be mine - I would love them more. You'll never be able to work out shit like that - and you're a poorer man for it. By the way one of my kids was adopted seventeen years ago from Gambia. You imagine dna is important to us? The only black I got is my suntan.

and writing. We'll never all get what we want. Nor do we only get what we need, Some of these comments are right on the nail. Nothing to do with the kids - she's gotta learn a painful lesson. I feel there's some truth told in this tale - 5*

when you adopt them you know they are adopted and make a choice to accept them. having someone foist one on you when you do not expect it and by fraud, that is different. color makes no difference.

cantbuymy. As i said, I was being emotive and 'doggs comment bit me. Thanks.

I can tell you've never been thru a the kids isn't mine moment in your life. I would love to see you standing in front of a judge explaining to you, how it's not your child but if needed you can continue to pay child support. Or my favorite was, if you would have stayed home more in steady of being in the military this wouldn't have happened. So as far as this loving the child crap is concerned. I've never said don't care about the child, I said don't get taken advantage of. So if that means walking away then so be it.

And x_witles_x, I don't bite unless your 5'7 148 pds and your name is MRS Huedogg2.....hahaha

I never have had to go through that. I've got bros that have been devastated in the dna stakes. And i gotta admit i never yet met a woman that lost her rights cos that dna told her them kids weren't hers!!

Now let's get this sright 'dogg, cant buy my - this ain't no love-in you mothas. We battle henceforth manaña ;)

This was a exercise in sanctimonious story telling that skimmed the surface of potentially sublime, psychological dephs. The lesbian en flagrante episode was tossed in for shock value and I appreciated that. It was perverse and it was hot. The rest of this was regurgitated Old Testament tripe.

I've five starred this author multiple times but this was too simplistic. I can't deny this story has pleased it's designated demographic namely the sort of folk who are looking for a quick, easy read to tide them over till Thursday rolls around. Good luck with that.

You gotta admit, it's grasping at straws. I agree that the husband is a little stiff under the collar, ok a lot stiff. But that doesn't take away fro the fact that coaster2, loves to make the husbands look like these, I can't be a man and get grid of the whore husbands. Getting a divorce is hard, that's true. But life goes on, pick yourself up and look to the next sunrise as a new day. Fuck that bitch, she'll never find better and move on. I can tell you from my divorce, I've been married almost 20 years to this wife and my ex is still a bitter little bitch looking for the next great love.

I liked this story and I thought it was accurate that the main character didn't have a honey standing by to relieve his pain as so many have in this genre. In my view, that's the way it happens most often. I think most guys who lose the love of the their life have a difficult time entering a new relationship - sometimes it takes years to open up.

Bill1104

On everyones part. Husbands and wives alike. I like a good throw the bitch under the train story but in reality this train wreck is how it happens in the real world. Nobody talks it out, nobody compromises, nobody gives an inch and things just go to hell. That's life. And I can't resist a comment to Mrs Huedogg - bite Mr Dogg - HARD!

Second read and as enjoyable as the first one. I love the tales of real life betrayal and consequences.

greats story but also truly sad, and no not about the cunt wife, lesbo/bi bitch deserves death, what i am sad about is the lack of emotion in the male character actually in a lot of the male characters written on this site. The issues is that the femanistas the complain about not tying hard enough or not forgiving enough, please, if you want to be a wimp ass bitch then stay married to the bi/lesbo women of your dreams, but if you dont then you go to war and it is a war for the soul and self respect of your true self ,and not the victim she wants you to be through her actions. What burned me about this story it a truth about "modern man" we are told not to enjoy winning or victory or god forbid the defeat of a enemy ( a cheating spouse is an enemy - betrayal is the lowest pit in hell for a reason), so we are torn up about trying our best and defeating those we compete against .The Bard said "stiffen the sinews, disguise fair nature with hard favored rage" its true, and in this story he took no joy in her fall an defeat...why she was no longer his wife but the enemy at the gates of his soul tearing down all he built. So when your mate cheats and lies and hurts you, you fight back, any way you can and when the dust settles from the fight you did not start or want laugh at her in the face take pride in your ability to survive, remember for her it was a "mistake" like steping on an ant while walking, but to her face scream from on high looking down from a victory so hard won and say "this was no mistake to me it was war". The other thing is how can a cheater lier and thief be a good mom? kinda like a rapist, murder, pedo, claiming to be a good parent. So in a divorce win or do not fight there is no try.

The morose feeling after reading this story was tantamount to eating uncooked chittlings.

good, sad story, no winners

without any recourse, TK U MLJ LV NV

The circumstances in this tale are reason alone for most sensible people in love not to cheat on their spouse. The damage is severe and irreparable. A ch.2 from the slut er wife's point of view would be nice. Oh well.

My fetish is to find a newer better wife after the cheating ex so I am sad a little.........

...if you are intent on ruining a good mood. This story was doubly-depressing in that everyone wound up as losers. Well-written and developed, this sure gives you a lot to think about.

and I hate most of them unless there is extenuating circumstances. This is one where I thought reconciliation was an option at least after a period of separation since no man was involved. But the six month duration of affair, the ease with which she lies and access to no go zones puts a damper to reconciliation idea...

- Go out and find a new girl to fuck! Yeah, so this rich guy loses an old wife to her perverted ways - so what! How close could they have been if she was lying to him for six months? How much could she have ever loved him, the father of her children if she would fuck a woman in their house? How much does she really like men if she is fucking women? Proper response, "Okay, you fooled me! I am a dummy, I thought that I had a wife who loved me so I went to work everyday to provide fro my family and became very successful. Turns out, you didn't really love me - you used me! You got a hard working husband, a nice lifestyle, and you got to fuck around on me! Good for you, nice run while it lasted! You stole the last 23 years from me and got away with it. Whatever years I have left, will be mine to share with people that actually care about me."

Although this is a fictional story, a couple of points. If he lived in a no fault State, then he couldn't file using adultery. Given the length of their marriage she would have gotten a large chunk of their net wealth and sizable alimony. And no bank officer would EVER be able to go into a clients safe deposit box. Also, family heirloom or not, she keeps the ring. This guy was delusional. And that lessened the story.

Bleak. Suicide pact, anyone?

The characters were bland and they lacked depth. The descriptions were incomplete and the content was dark and dismal. Infidelity is infidelity but twenty three years is a long time. Perhaps the wife was experiencing a medical problem with hormonal imbalance or a nervous breakdown. I felt the author was very austere in the handling of the demise of this marriage. At anyrate, it was good writing of a very bad story. Thanks for your effort.

The last paragraph is whiny bs. Either he takes action or he accepts that he is a cuckold. The last paragraph whines as though he were the cheater rather than the victim.

she is better off without him anyway. he didn't love her as much as the author portrayed him to. yes it was infidelity but not a situation where there was no return from the brink if there was the love the author tried to make us believe they had.

brian

THEY DID IT U DAMNED IT and the outcome was predictable,, TK U MLJ LV NV