All Comments on 'Getting Even'

I'm a little confused here. Bill and Emily went to this party together and at some point Emily was in Roger's car being fucked seven ways to Sunday, yet Bill was completely unaware of his wife's disappearance and Roger's wife was similarly oblivious to her own husband's absence. The only one to witness what was happening stumbled across the scene completely by accident. As our American cousins say: 'go figure'.

I can MAYBE excuse her not confessing immediately, but once she knew she was terminal she should have told him so that he could confront her, ans MAYBE forgive her. If the price of that confession was him walking away, well she earned it.

All or nothing thinking, and basing those thoughts on assumptions and seriously incomplete information, is so damned immature. An affair that goes on deliberately is one thing, but a one-time drunken lapse of judgment is a very different beast. Our Hero reacted like a self-righteous little man-boy and he threw away his chance to learn what really happened. It could have been worse, it could have been better, but he will never know.

Good story but a little incomplete, need to fill in a couple of gaps. And a remark by an ANON that he was self righteous and one drunken roll in the hay was forgivable, no it isn't forgivable. Any normal adult that drinks know how it affects them. She put herself in that situation and there is no forgiving her cheating. Who cares why? Marriage vows are a promise, if you break a promise how can anyone ever rely on your promise again?

If drinking causes you to loses all morals and inhibitions then you don't drink... If drinking makes you forget your promises and vows then you don't drink. Most people know by the time they are in their 40's how drinking will affect them. If she got drunk and fucked the neighbor then she made the decision to be in that compromising position.

One drunken fuck in the back seat isn't necessarily what ends a relationship, the lies and cover do.

Forgiveness over betrayal IS weakness. Anyone with self respect can move on and not forgive a transgression.

I guess this is as close to a btb you will get from Joe. He believes that all married women should cheat on their husbands, who should willingly become cucks. Not my cup of tea. Two stars.

Ok. The one thing that nobody mentioned, was why Rogers email was still there, years after the fact. First off, most email programs automatically delete trash. For example, Gmail does it after 30 days. So I can’t see him, finding out this way. If it was pics stored on the hard drive, it’s possible he could recover them with a recovery program. But I don’t know how you could recover, a deleted email. What would have been more believable, is pics and letters that were recovered by a recovery program.

If you use Outlook as a program, not in the browser, mails never get deleted, even in Deleted Items

??? !!!

Good story. 5 stars

forgive a lying cheating whore??? youre crazy.

It's not a case of forgiveness, it a case of letting go. To let go one needs to understand what happened. The problem is, I feel he would have divorced her but he lost the chance to deal with it. Thus he only had a hollow victory that left a bad taste in his mouth. As to the email issues, I use MS Office Outlook that downloads the emails to my hard drive. That does not get deleted.

Should have told all her friends and family

The story was fine until we come to the incoherent psychobabble: "Forgiveness isn't a sign of weakness; it's a sign of strength. It isn't about the person who wronged you; it's about you. It isn't about letting someone off the hook; it's about allowing yourself the freedom to put your past aside and move on with your life."

A lot of words that really don't mean anything. No discussion of what "forgiveness" is, or when it may be merited, just some word salad about its alleged benefits.

The definition of forgiveness, as described in this story, and indeed through most LE stories, is false; a construct used by the perpetrator to gain absolution. The betrayer is never absolved and the betrayed owes them nothing.

What is true, and vitally important to the betrayed, is the definition #3 below. However, the real, and necessary, act is reaching the point where the betrayed relegated the betrayal to the trash heap of the past and sees the person, and act, not worth caring about, and moves on.

That, and that alone brings "closure" for the betrayed-the matter is no longer of any importance hence concluded thus no longer of any importance.

After my divorce it took 5 years to reach that point which became realized with the following bit of wisdom from a "girl-Friend"

"When you first met her, and found out about what she had done, would date her anyway knowing what she was capable of? Would you put your heart and life at constant risk? My answer was"Hell No!

She followed that with this observation.

Would the girl you married ever have cheated on you given the person she was then" Again, NO.

She finished with: "People change over time, sometimes for the best, sometimes not. You're pining for the girl that was and deluding yourself by thinking that is the same person that betrayed you; a perception patently false."

THAT was the turning point for me. After that I was sad for the loss of what she ONCE was and abhored the person she actually was now. At that point she was related to the position of a complete, unknown person dying somewhere else in the world. I wish them neither good nor bad. I, in truth, just don't care. AT THAT POINT YOU CAN MOVE ON.

This brings up the parallel concept in LE; "closure"

Do you really care why or how many times of what she/he did? For the guys comparing dick size is,stupid. Who cares. The central, ONLY, matter of concern is the act of betrayal and the loss of trust that IS damaged forever. Succinctly,"One and done." Further interaction is no longer necessary. HER needs, wants or desires must not enter into the betrayed realm of concern and certainly no sane reason to entertain indulging the betrayer needs. NO moral duty exists for the betrayed. BTB is not really necessary. GETTING AWAY from the torpedoed ship IS the single most important first action for emotional survival.

[Destroy ALL traces of existence in your life, MOVE your living location. Avoid relationships for a year, during which counseling is essential. Then, after you have rebuilt yourself, get on with the business of making a new life.

Sorry, but I had a lot to say and before you say that this will wreck the LW format their are several writers here that take the betrayed down this road to redemption.

Reconciliation, excepting rare mitigating circumstances, is the short road to destruction of the core self.

DICTIONARY

to grant pardon for or remission of (an offense, debt, etc.); absolve.

to give up all claim on account of; remit (a debt, obligation, etc.).

to grant pardon to (a person).

to cease to feel resentment against:

to forgive one's enemies.

to cancel an indebtedness or liability of:

CLOSURE

the act of closing; the state of being closed.

a bringing to an end; conclusion.

something that closes or shuts.

If forgiveness was so important to the deceased wife, she should have sought it while she was among the living. She preferred, however, the presumption of innocence to the reality of possibly being forgiven. She gambled and lost. Based on that fact and the odds of fatal overian cancer among women as a whole, it seems clear the secretive adultress was both unfaithful and unlucky.

Just another disgusting story about forgiving the unforgivable.

Just like the liberal people in this world demands.

There is only one way to acceptable way justice, eye for an eye or more never less.

Lot of cowardly anons who don't seem to understand that forgiveness is for the wronged to move on, not for the sinner to feel less guilty.

God, you really stirred the pot with this one. Though there were those of us that would have loved to read her excuse for infidelity, remember there are also those of us that might have caused it reading this too. Marilyn was right; there are always two side to every story. Try writing a story where the hero caused a wife to be unfaithful to her husband, over and over because of what the hero does to her. That will probably get you as many bad complaining comments. Since you can't win with readers, just keep writing. You're good!!

XYZ

The job isn’t done! The enablers need to pay also.

I didn't have a gut feeling on how to grade this story.

So, I didn't

No offense SWINGERJOE

WTF Forgive the cheating bitch, what for she got what she Deserved, Karma is a bitch some times. He was lucky enough to get his rightful revenge too!!

What was written in the letter?

I agree with those who say forgiveness is for the forgiver's benefit, not the transgressor's. That's demonstrably true. But him not giving her a chance to explain was also for his benefit. He refuses to entertain her excuses. He knows in his heart he has adhered to his standard. Why did she do it? She is unlikely to tell the truth and may not even know it herself. Women always think talking makes things better, but some acts stand alone, they require no interpretation. Why did she do it? Because she wanted to.

Good story, until the end. Most people would be pissing on the cheating bitch's grave whenever possible. 2 stars for the wuss at the end.

Rightfully denied the dead cheater her say, deathbed confessions are a horrible transferral of responsibility onto the survivor. Revenge beautifully done.

I would say Literotica needs a New Category Called No f---ing Ending! It seems a Majority of the stories here would fall under that Category.

Eh? The ending is right there, and quite nice one. She was denied a chance to give her stupid excuses, the guy lost wife, kids and money in the divorce, and main character is FREE, not forced to either lose his income and assets, OR have to live with a cheater, because Karma put paid to her making him free to find female company that appreciates him.

The only garbage part was calling the callous bitch of a cheating enabler "dear friend". I mean yes she was a friend to the wife, NOT to him. Yes she gave useful advice (at this time, for his mental well being, letting go was healthier than keeping the anger in), but as far as she was concerned, she didn't do it for MC, she did it to make herself and the spirit of her dead cheater friend feel better.

Wish he got to fuck Chelsea - not for fun but for extra revenge value.

I must say I'm disappointed at story's low score (though given this writer mostly writes about swinging, not surprised - perhaps their usual readers don't see cheating as a problem)

@anon and what LE needs, is to separate LW stories into 4 categories: "real LW" (ones without cheating and literal meaning of "loving" - my favorite LW stories), "cheating+consequences" (BTB and lesser consequences), "cuck" (where the guy is erotically into it, OR 'luuuuuves' her and can't leave without the cheating ass and ignores the cheating) and "cheating+reconciliation" (where MC forgives the cheater but not unconditionally). This way people can just skip categories they hate, be they BTB, cuck or reconciliation, leading to far less strife and conflict, and more satisfaction for both readers and writers

Never forgive a cheater, ever.

Bahhumug

Gotta grade the composition aspects as very well sone; all the bells and whistles that a Writers' Workshop would dictate for quality writing are there, so kudos on that. Ditto the character development.

As for the plot, well...the schematic was guaranteed to stir up serious attitude perspectives whichever way it was interpreted, and what else can a serious writer wish for? So kudos on that aspect as well.

Personally, I differ from all the reviewers I've perused in that I simply have to give EVERY character--especially Emily--the right to be human and make mistakes which do not negate the vast majority of their lives. How many of us have done something when our brains are impaired with alcohol or drugs which we totally regret when we regain our "filters" of right and wrong? (He who is without sin, cast the first stone..." etc. etc.

Existentialists say we are the sum total of our life's experiences. By that yardstick Emily was waaay over on the positive side of life; but it was written to present the plot the author wished. And written well.

Thank you, and more please.

MLJ

Even better the 2nd time around! Full Marks 5 - Stars!

Great story ruined by the ending

Pointless rubbish.

Good story. But burning the letter is childish. Sorry. She died. Yes she cheated. That letter is thr only way to get any questions answered, and a deathbed confession has a good chance of being accurate. Besides the email trail was vague and Phil saw them once. It isn't hard to believe the predator Roger seduced her with alcohol. Having it taint everything he remembers about their many years together (assuming it was a one time slip and she is already dead) is just cutting off his own nose to spite his face. Seriously read the letter. Or die alone in pain. It is that simple. At least Marilyn convinced him (to some extent).

@anon - your degree of empathy to the victim here is overwhelming. He doesn't need to get his questions answered **from a biased, lying, self-serving source who will say anything to make herself feel and look better**. I get it that you hate men so you wish him to die alone in pain. Thanks for showing your disgusting, psychi, man-hating colours.

I thought Bill was kind of childish when he destroyed the letter. Not a bad story otherwise.