All Comments on 'Incompatible Needs Pt. 02'

What a piece of crap the woman is married to The marriuage should blow up in his face

Human beings may be built promiscuous …but not made to be polyamourous! Jealousy will always exist unless all are saints…

The only way polygamy works is when religion from an early age makes women blindly believe that they are inferior to men and will always have to depend on men !! This marriage in the se religions becomes. A contract and the women a business proposition ( a sold goods). She has no self respect or dignity other then one of the man’s wife and a breeding cow for the future ! These type of marriage survive because the women are brought up to have no independent thought process and no self respect as an individual!! That may be possible in middle age mindset countries…but not where women believe they are the equal of men at any stage!!! So this was actually a stupid story !!

In another universe, perhaps.

Not something that I expected to see in loving wives. Definitely not worth going further.

More like a science fiction story. Azimov might like it.

Maybe three isn't a crowd after all!

5

Not usually a fan of this type of plot, but you wrote it so well and compelling me to read it through to the end. Well done. This one is an easy 5.

I didn't read the 1st chapter when I came out because this sort of ridiculous 3 way long term relationships do not work. They cannot work they do not work and they never will work out. Anybody who says otherwise is selling you something.

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As usual the writing is fabulous the characters are excellent and I couldn't give a shit what happened to any of these people

A perfect example of why polyamorous relationships will never catch on and become the norm, too much fucking effort is required. Christ it’s hard enough keeping one raving lunatic happy let alone two or more.

"and that what was coming next could end her just as easily as if I'd fired a real gun"

That is what I was referring to yesterday. You are trying to be profound but delivering pompous

Wiccan lol.

I will give you a bit of a real life info.

From the start of human history, every single human loved loyalty.

No exceptions ever! It is set in stone!

Well... In a long run, one can't be loyal to two people!

PS: as a fictional bull, it is OK.

Username checks out.

no thanks...two women, one man, same house, never going to work out.

Your worst story ever. Fucked up worthless characters so shallow that their parents would run away from them. The subject was beyond your current skills level. Work on your characters before tackling a subject you're not ready for.

Honestly: Steve and Helen are oblivious dick faced assholes and the only sympathy I had for anyone was Anne who, admittedly, needed therapy, but she was ignored and displaced and her savings were devalued. Probably an unpopular take but then again, I think polyamoury is nonsense so here we are

Your nom de erotica is bullshit. Not a hack, not untalented. You're a good writer; this was a good story. Thank you.

1 star - the idea just does not work for me.

One penis and six holes to put it in - would always be a problem.

You would be playing "whack-a-doodle" all the time, because one person would always be left out.

too unreal and too long

Very enjoyable story. You made real characters that I was invested in from the start. Excellent writing, thank you for sharing.

Whew! What a ride. I don't have the strength that guy has to put up with all of the crap for as long as he did. The best I think I could manage would be to divorce my wife and maybe be FWB with the two women while I help raise and support the one child I would have. No more kids with that group!

NO ONE can be this analytical about relationships that they are a part of. The emotions are too strong. They need to see an outside consultant to get this far along.

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That's why a heterosexual pairing is natural: the relationship can be perpetuated on various emotional compatibility levels. Even when Anne's womb proved to be an evolutionary cul-de-sac, nature was determined to play out the game.

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But occasionally we have learned to use technology to overcome nature. Good for us.

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Once again, thanks for introducing and fearlessly discussing a difficult topic. The conversation and community itself is always a little broader from having read your contributions.

The mark of a great author. I really didn't like any of the three characters. Found them all shallow to say the least. And I get absolutely nothing from the polyamory theme, I think it's largely a big lie that these relationships can work long-term, and frankly I think when it does work it's because the people involved have some synapses that aren't firing..... yet despite all that I was compelled to finish the story and find out what happened.

Not this author's best work. As much as he tried to bring some angst and conflict in, it just didn't reach the level of his other works. But all in all, still a great read - solid 4.

Not my cup of tea but great writing.

silentsound

“A wiccan friend of Helen's bound us together in a handfasting,“….. But of course! A logical extension of the incoherent nonsense of this “relationship” 🥳

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Seriously….as per usual, well written. At one point I really thought that the impossibility of having a “throuple” actually work was going to be revealed when you used the analogy of Anne’s need to be the “center” of attention. In a “normal” 2 person relationship, each person can (and should) be the center for the other person, around which each revolves. Think of a binary star system, where each star orbits the other. But in a 3-way, that can’t work. In a paring, both can give the other “everything”. In a 3-way…what you give to one you can’t—by definition—give the other. You act and react differently with different people. That’s just the reality.

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But then you made the effort to get it to work. Which eventually required a “wiccan blessing”?? Too funny 😎

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Bottom line: story was engaging, well written, and thought provoking. But I could never buy into it actually happening 🤗

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4 ****

Sorry, but I see Steve as the master manipulator. It took him a while to break Anne but eventually he succeeded and got everything HE wanted. In the end, I guess it worked out for the others as well. Can’t imagine how it will be long term for the kids.

Definitely not my cup of tea. Good writing just not doable.

Fantastic. Sadly, I think I’ll always be a skeptic on how well polyamory can actually work, but you laid out a yarn that seems as realistic as possible, while maintaining the juicy drama I read these stories for.

Quality writing is a product of clear thinking. I’m really enjoying your’s.

It’s all very sweet, but I just can’t believe in happy lifelong threesomes.

Yeah, really disliked this one. Anne was in parts very right. While I read the story it was always about him and Helen and how good they are together and how it was Anne who didnt want to be a part of them. He was so generous to allow Anne to be in a relationship with Helen. But he used it to inject himself. All his actions towards Anne in this chapter were always confrontational and downright cruel at points although she raised good points and had reasonable concerns. Her problem was communicating them. He did communicate but nothing worthwhile. It was always him hammering onto her, that she has to be happy with the situation because he allowed her to be with Helen. Thats even more manipulative. They did everything to drive her away, they were always together, didnt want one on one time and were ganging up on her. They didnt even notice. Thats whats called emotional neglect. And they will have a child together, not a child for him and his wife, as it was supposed to be. She was going to be the step-mom, the one who is also there but isnt the real mother. Add all this up and its no wonder she retreated and was looking for something somewhere else. I just cant give this story a good rating, he was more of a bastard than Anne was in my opinion. But he laid all the fault on her feet. It was always her competitiveness and not their emotional neglect, abuse and unwillingness to respond to her needs. Why those points werent discussed will always be a puzzle for me because. Why wasnt Anne allowed yell him into a corner?

Well done.

Despite my best efforts to not like it, I actually did.

I’m conflicted here, and I hope you take what I say well.

I feel you had more story to go, but rushed the ending just so you could get this over with.

If I’m wrong, I apologize. I came to this conclusion by measuring it against your other works, and this seemed to not be your normal developed style. If this is a conscious change you’ve made, I hope it works out for you. Again, if I’m off-base, I apologize.

Be well!

You are a very good writer.

I always know I’ll be affected - for positive vibes or melancholy - when I. Read one of your stories.

Uniformly 5*.

A bunch of very vile people

OK, Sure, Why Not? I think communes is an ancient and successful relationship model, about like marriages. All of which can succeed or fail, for any number of reasons. Everyone lived happily ever after; fine. And not so much boring, as irrelevant: who cares? We are to understand that spouses cheat frequently, so who knows how many betrayals or adulteries took place in this threesome? Especially as the sex becomes more segregated, and preferential. You really think they are always and in all ways going to have the same level of lust, desire, and love for each other? And you think the third wheel isn't going to know? There is the old factual historical indication: how common is monogamy, versus polyamory? Nope, can't blame it on the puritans or the church. Fast food is bad for your health and well being, but its common and hugely popular, despite all the evidence and advice against it. Apparently monogamy is still the union of popular demand, for the same reason: common and hugely popular. And actually Good for your health and well being. So writing stories about successful polyamory relationships is like writing a story about controlled drug use, or limited obesity. Possible, I guess, but mostly fiction. Just like this story. Thanks for the effort.

I really enjoyed it and don't understand how people forget that this is fiction. I imagine there are actual throuples out that work and some that don't just like other relationships.

Thanks for writing

@Thorlol You nailed it. The main character is a horrible manipulative asshole who can do no wrong in his own mind. He overreacted to Anne at every turn then browbeat her into getting his way. Helen doesn't come off much better in this chapter. For someone who is supposed to be so empathic she sure took to taking over Anne's place pretty quickly. And what was with kicking Anne out of the bedroom?! Holy hell talk about abusive. So she was forced to listen to them screw next door, all alone, for the terrible sin of questioning their relationship and driving around for few hours. And they call that love?! It's so petty and cruel.

While I'm not sure if polyamory can work without one partner being submissive, if it works for them, then I have no issues and am even a little jealous.

Well, the last thing I remember, Doc, I started to swerve

And then I saw the Jag slide into the curve

I know I'll never forget that horrible sight

I guess I found out for myself that everyone was right

Won't come back from this bad turd

Well written 5 stars for the writing. The content was totally unbelievable, but thought provoking. All in all a good read, though the people set my teeth on edge.

You forced the reconciliation based on the plot lines you presented in the first chapter and well into this one. The narrative was again excellent, again only the final knots tying together was a bit flawed. Rounding up to 5*

This is one of the many, many incredible insights which make-up the theme of this insightful, perfectly-written and entertaining work. [I realized how easily I'd let myself get drawn into Anne's competitive world, where love is expressed only after negotiation is done. Where affection is competitive instead of cooperative. Where we weren't all part of a team together, but a mass of shifting alliances.] There is so much in this paragraph, you could construct a 500-page novel around it. The story concerning this three-person dynamic might be the most unique story I've read on this site. Oh, Anne, a beautiful serpent or damaged person? I think OP understands human nature quiiiiite well, and can sure write what he knows! The gun analogy is one of the best things I've ever read in this type of writing. For the record? The Chinese character for 'chaos' is two women under one roof! So, the HEA was icing on the cake!! 5++++++++++/5!!

Too many idiots on this board unable to appreciate anything beyond 'wife cheats, so husband stomps the paramour with steel-toed work boots and sells wife to the Gulf Cartel'. The mob brachiate, "Fibe sturrs! Bezest stury ever!" Stop casting pearls before swine NTH and sell this fine wine. Fifty fuc*ing stars.

Best Regards- John Yossarian.

Dreams facing reality !

I particularly liked the discussion about the programmer, the project manager and the sales person and how their different personalities affected their home dynamics.

This was very well written however unenjoyable. I just can't stand non-monagamy. My foible shouldn't drag down your effort though. So I give it three stars.

Nope- you can make anything work and be believable in a fictional story, but real life deals in reality. To bring up jealousy, insecurity, hurt feelings, and inadequacy one by one, take them on verbally like a psychologist with a lifetime of experience in dealing with threesomes- well, it's an admirable task, but falls short. People are human, and we just aren't evolving that fast. Had to skim quite a bit of this one.

Re Tls2753a:

So, if any of them changed jobs, how would their dynamics change at home?

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My personality changes based on what job I’m working or my changing role in a company. Is it realistic to think that all 3 of these young adults are already permanently committed to a certain profession/perpetual behavior pattern? And what if they were living in a culture where the marketplace isn’t as highly specialized?

Not one of you best.

I loved it, better than the first chapter. I am a sucker for a happy ending though, so that probably helped. I am amused at many of the commenters dismissing your story as totally unrealistic b/c such a relationship is ALWAYS doomed to fail. I do feel that such a relationship would be incredibly difficult. However, I am willing to bet that the world has throuples who have made it. People in general, and definitely on this website, seem to feel that if other people don't like what they like and do what they would do, then those others are living wrongly. The wide world is full of people successfully pursuing happiness in many-many ways. No need for us to judge how people achieve happiness (as long as you aren't hurting others in following your bliss).

A lot of commenters here saying more about themselves than the story they're commenting on.

Fine work here. The work and effort needed to make a viable throuple was expressed and outlined without becoming tedious (at least in my opinion). Five stars. Admittedly, I didn't find any of the characters particularly engaging, but as someone else above posted, it's the mark of a good writer to be able to draw a reader in and tell a compelling story even if the characters aren't the selling point.

I know many people involved in polyamorous relationships, some that have been stable for years going on decades. You accurately expressed what it takes to make it work: work, communication, trust, and most of all, an abandonment of the ideal that the self is the center.

Good work, I say again.

Well I was thinking what a spectacular job you had done exploring your premise. Then you threw in a random Wiccan that fit the story like a fart in church. Other than that, well done.

This was an awesome tale. I loved it from start to finish and could hardly put it down to sleep/work.

I loved the MC approach to the 'competition' bit - that was totally f'in well done and well written.

Interesting approach to the polyamory thesis of multiple and equal partners in a marriage.

I think you highlighted the challenges & issues well, while still telling an engaging tale of attraction, love, jealousy, and ultimate happiness.

Well played !

EastCoaster

I love the way you told a complex story well

Really well written and conceived, complex issues raised and explored. Great job.

As an actual polyamorous person who's been in 2 throuples, I was excited to see some representation. Then aggravated when they started off as a couple and their unicorn. Then happy when Steve tried to veer away from that . Then aggravated when...(rinse and repeat). The line about,, "Love increased and not divided" gave me hope but then that was dashed not after

I'm glad you avoided the Mary Sue tropes but Steve was just as much a dick as Anne. So bossy, and the only one with anything close to a voice of reason. Everything was just fine as long as his "girls" stayed in their places. And Helen was almost an NPC, only being allowed to be a crying mess, a sex pot or, to come out screaming obscenities because a member of the polycule expressed that her needs weren't being met.

I could go on but I'll stop with, the story is a few things polyamory is and a lot of what people in the monogamous community perceive as what's going on.

Wow. I've never gone off like this in the comments before. You hit a nerve so, I guess that's good

@hecateschild - i'm not sure you ever dealt with anyone with such a personality as Anne's is shown. If you aren't dick to that person, THEY END UP INEVITABLY a dick to you. They see any agreableness as weakness to be exploited. So, he was treating Anne the only feasible way to keep relationship to her long term stable.

Also, were your trouples MMF, with two non-nerd guys? That'd be my guess, based on how perceived this story.

Your assumption of "their places" - there's not even a hint of that there. Is he behaving like a leader? Yes. Is that because he wants or needs to lead? No. It's because he's probably an INTJish personality. And yes, on average they ARE smarter and more reasonable and better planners than other types. They don't aspire to lead (in the garbage alpha/beta/whatnot culture, they are the Sigmas or Omegas or whatever you call the loner, a tribe of one, type); but when they see they have the best solution, they will. It's a lot of effort for them and they aren't happy they have to, but what they care about is end result being the best that there can be.

All you see is your feminist brain allowing you to see, a man having a leadership role in a given situation (not even overall permanently), and you see it automatically as wrong, regardless of whether he's right on the topic or whether he's best qualified to lead.

This was one of the best works involving poly that actually tried to play with realistic people with realistic somewhat incompatible psyches. Absent SERIOUS therapy (and a serious shock, to make a person WANT to succeed at therapy), someone like Anne is relationship destroyer long term, even if it's just a couple, never mind a trouple. Her behavior that Helen described in school shows that. She wants to be the center of everyone's attention and the star, not an equal partner in a relationship. She's smart and aware enough to suppress this when married to someone she feels is good for her, but it's a REALLY deep seated need, way below rational level, for some people.

WOW ! Incredibly thoughtful and thought provoking. The interaction and conversations were amazingly well thought out. The confrontations were heart rending and I felt as if I were sitting near by listening to each of them speak. You truly are a gifted writer. Thank you for sharing what’s in your very fertile mind. ❤️ 5-😊😊😊😊

Damn, what confusing emotions on the part of all the characters. Certainly not a situation that I would like to be part of. You certainly have quite an imagination. *****.

Don't you just love words? They are so cheap, and easy: Polyamory; what the fuck does that mean? The concept prompts the joke: I know a guy who is so devoted to monogamy that he's been married seven times. Marriage is sacred not because of God, but because it is absolute truth. Or its not really a marriage. Two, 2, and only two people, devoted to each other, so absolutely that their devotion is only to each other, and to the Exclusion of anyone else. And the devotion and exclusion are NOTnegotiable: the marriage is either on or off, and its substance and content are Entirely private, personal, and ordained by the marriage partners.

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Polyamory is whatever the group wants and claims it to be, but its Not a marriage. How many people? What level of intimacy? What is each members' responsibility to each other member and to the group? Can it be exclusively heterosexual or exclusively homosexual and still be true Polyamory? If everyone completely loves each other, and A is fucking B and B is fucking C then shouldn't C be fucking A? Otherwise its not Poly anything, its just a commune sort of group family/sex arrangement thing. Or is that Polyamory too? And when the kids get old enough can they join in the open unregulated sex? Since there is no adultery within the Polyamory construct, how can there be incest? Helen's son would not be blood related to Anne, so why can't they fuck? And at what age? If monogamy is contrived and outdated, then why isn't age-of-consent ideas? Yeah, I am starting to see why Polyamory might be appealing to some people, really appealing.

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Words, so cheap and easy. But Actions, Reality, Truth? Those are a little more difficult to fake. But thanks for the effort.

To the anonymous person below me talking about age of consent:

Age of consent isn't outdated because it has nothing to do with society but with the development of a human being. A minor isn't fully developed yet. Their brain is still developing. I know that there are young adults who are irresponsible and teenagers who are mature for their age but that isn't the norm. Children aren't ready yet to make decisions of possibly bringing a child they have to care for into the world. Some say age is just number. Well, jail is just a room then.

I agree with the positive comments. As I have commented previously, you are a gifted writer with an amazing ability to portray people's emotions.

This was a very revealing depiction of the characters of the 3 parties and the pleasures and perils of polyamory. It is difficult enough being monogamous and living in a binary relationship while managing work relationships, friendships, parents, siblings, children etc.

So, well done, ignore the negative comments and keep on writing great, insightful stories.

Not a realistic story, but no less wonderful, such a very loving story.

Love it, thank you for sharing it with us.

Well written, but while I am sure there are long lasting and satisfying polyamourous relationships out there, though rare based on statistics, with Anne's personality, there is no they make it as a throuple. Instead some deus ex machina mechanisms near the end are used to stitch them back together. Author is a great talent, but not their best work.

A nice well written story with a nice ending.

Man written

Wasn’t really a fan of the subject matter but your writing style made it easier for me to complete it, not one of me favourites of yours but congrats on the work

Wowie, what an emotional rollarcoaster. Jesus F Christ allmighty, I was hanging by the edge of my seat for most of the story, especially in part 2. All those dark foreshadowings sprinkled throughout the two parts had me sweating bullets and then towards the end when Steve commented the thing about the happy family being ruined....almost felt like the author sprinkled some of them in as a missleading way of spicing up the story. Almost. It teetered on the edge of that being the case but never quite jumped into that hole, thankfully. The ending was a tad rushed. I would've liked to see how the throuple interacted with their kids and so on. Not heavily needed, or anything. But, It would've been nice to see the happy family for a bit longer, after a time skip or something. Never the less, amazing story. Gripping at times, heart wrenching at other times. Especially in part 2. Part 1 felt a bit lacking and had a bit less meat on its bones, plot wise, compared to part 2 at least.

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Lastly, I just wanna point out how amazingly believable the majority of their characters are in these stories. Well, the ones I've read so far anywho. The author, manages to have me sympathise with these characters. Their responses aren't boring, nor do they only serve to move the plot forward. They feel like actual people....having a dialogue. You'd think that isn't a praise worthy thing, but, that sort of realism, from my experience anywho, can be hard to find. The one story that is an exception to this was the BTB story about the dude with his dog, Her Master's Voice. Tho, the fact that it being over the top and a bit cartoonish in its violence and cruelty was on purpose, gives the story a pass.

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Easy 5/5. You're quickly becoming one of my favorite authors on this site. Keep up the good work, and I can't wait to read more of your stuff!

No idea if this could be a realistic poly or not, but I liked it.

I know almost nothing about polyamory, but I would imagine that Ann’s reaction would be more par for the course. I’d imagine losing an established exclusivity would create major issues.

Of course, with at least 4 billion adult humans, I’m sure there are successful permutations of all sorts of relationships. So realistic? Possibly. I think the author successfully articulates some of the issues and pitfalls here. Of course, the prose is well written as well.

Weird but thought provoking especially about the job of sales not fitting in-amazing insight!

You should be proud of this work.

Another gem, maybe a bit wordy but the concepts were so stinking abstract it was needed to make sense.

It was good until you introduced all the children then it went to hell in a hand basket. What a mess for the kids. They didn't have a choice or a say in three parents.

The man was an insuffferable unsympathetic dickwad.

I like how you showed that a doctor and therapist can help solve relational problems. A great ending of your story!

Well written but I didn't like the story. I admit what they went through is what if expect, but don't Believe they could fix it ...

Wiccans, polyamory, and other horse shit makes this one fall short for me. I rarely give a good score if I don’t like the story, but your writing is that good.