Orc Dominion Triumph: Afterward

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Thoughts and reflections on the Orc Dominion series.
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Part 70 of the 71 part series

Updated 01/20/2023
Created 01/31/2014
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What a long, strange road it's been! I find it hard to believe that I've actually finished the series. I didn't really intend to make it one when I set out eight years ago to write Orc Dominion: Zentara. I was just looking to turn some of my favorite fantasies into a story, not create an entire world and series. Thank you to everyone who has rated or commented on my stories. You're the reason that one book became four and a half.

I have learned a lot since I first started writing, and though not everyone has enjoyed the themes, genres, or direction the story has gone I think the quality of the writing itself has gotten better. When I started writing Triumph 2.5 years ago I thought it was going to be the culmination of all I had learned, and in a way it is. But there was also some hubris there. I thought that I would be able to sit down and write the perfect novel in one shot.

I realize now how insanely optimistic that was. No one writes the story they want on the first draft. It requires revision and revision to go back and ensure all the imagery, allusions, themes and so forth are consistent and well placed throughout the story. I didn't do as good a job of that as I could have. I should have done more to develop the relationship between Amelie and Anne, more to develop the relationship between Augras and his parents, and I probably should have shown more of the politics in Ruar. Drauken ended up being gone from the city so often that I didn't have the POV in the city, which I think left the coup plot underdeveloped.

I also could have done a better job spacing the POVs. Now, part of it is because the story was published chapter by chapter over several months, but I feel like there are too many large gaps where we don't see characters and the reader loses track of them. It probably wouldn't hit so hard if the story is read all the way through, but it definitely could be better spaced.

Part of that is because my outline for the story fell apart almost immediately. The story was supposed to start with Augras, not Amelie. So Chapter 2 would have been Chapter 1. But it occurred to me that Augras' first chapter is a little slow, and I wanted a battle to draw people in. I also thought people would want to see Amelie first, since writing about Princesses is kind of my thing. So I switched it up, but that threw off the pacing of every chapter that came afterward, so the balance I had of which characters appear when collapsed.

Also in the original outline, the only stories that really connected were Amelie and Augras. Brigitte never met Amelie or Drauken, Jasmara and Henry never met Amelie etc. It was essentially going to be 4 stories happening simultaneously without much interaction. After thinking about it though, I realized that was crazy. So I had to rework the outline so that their paths crossed, which I think worked out pretty well and we got some good scenes out of it, as well as some good character development.

Overall, I think I did a good job of running multiple interconnected storylines and forging it into a cohesive narrative. It was a little dodgy for me at the end as I wrapped them all up though. I didn't want to have several chapters in a row where everything just collapsed for the humans and the orcs won. That's why I blended the last Drauken/Jasmara chapters to drag that out a little, and was able to use Brigitte to show a 'human' victory before going into Amelie's downfall. Hopefully it came across as natural and not an abrupt end to the story.

So what is next for Orc Dominion? Well, as I said earlier it's hubris to think you can just sit down and write the perfect novel on the first try. I have already started revising Zentara, cleaning up the writing and adding in some of the lore I developed after writing it. I definitely want to expand on the relationship between Jeanette and her parents, as well as add in a subplot where Jeanette is stringing along some of the 8 Duchies with marriage offers, playing them against one another, and maneuvering them into the position of all agreeing the orc alliance is the right move. I also want to finally soften the ending scene to bring it more in line with the rest of the series, and expand on her time in the brothel so it doesn't escalate to a gangbang so quickly.

If any of you have suggestions for how to improve any of the stories, please leave them in the comments or send them to me via feedback. I like hearing your ideas, even if I don't always implement them. Once the stories have been revised I am going to try publishing them online. I want to do it on Amazon, but that's going to cause trouble at some point since they don't allow incest. The other option I guess is Smashwords. If you've had any experience with them, let me know what you think!

If that goes well, then I will go back and write a sequel series set 400 years in the future. Things will have changed dramatically...minotaur breedings with humans, orcs, and elfs created ogres, trolls, and satyrs. Magic is much more ubiquitous, though it still retains its ritualistic nature. Orc houses war against one another, while a resistance forms to break their control over the Western Kingdoms.

Some of you have wondered why or how there would still be humans and elfs etc. Wouldn't they have been bred out of existence? The answer is that several generations into orc rule, the dominant traits that allowed orc features to assert themselves over human and elf features begin to weaken. You already see this with Augras and the other children of Lyriena and Trogar. As such, the Emperor passes a series of blood laws which regulate how much interbreeding there can be to prevent the orc race from getting too weak.

This also serves to better control who has access to magic, since you need to have orc, human, and elf blood in order to control it. Of course, most of the great families bend these rules, creating human or elf looking servants with magic that they use as spies and assassins. One of those would be the heroine of the story, who struggles between loyalty to the orcs that raised her up and gave her position and the resistance which wants to use her to bring down the corrupt system.

The one thing holding me back is that the 'style' isn't really my forte. My stories tend to revolve around noble women falling into corruption. This story would be about a servant using sex to get ahead. It would be a bit different than what I normally write and find interesting. While I think it would have more mainstream appeal to the Literotica community, it may not be what my fanbase is looking for.

I also don't think my heart would be in it for a lot of the sex scenes. I like the story, but without the corruption aspect the erotic scenes would be forced in. So we will see. I'll continue thinking about it, and work on revising my stories. Again, leave a comment if you have any ideas on what could improve them. If you send feedback through Literotica and want me to respond, remember to include your email. Thanks again to all the readers who made it through the series, and for all your support while writing it.

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SexinatiSexinatiabout 3 years ago

You absolutely must let me know about your Mainstream work/s when you get to writing them!!

I wish you all the best in your future endeavours OrcDominion, whether they be G-rated or X-rated.

OrcDominionOrcDominionabout 3 years agoAuthor
Future Plans

Alas, I do not think I will ever finish revisong the story I'm afraid. I am taking a step back from erotica and focusing on more mainstream work. By which I mean I've been siffering from writer's block and have gotten almost nothing done!

AnonymousAnonymousabout 3 years ago
Time of publish?

Can you give us any feedback of how the revised stories are progressing or when will you publish them? I'd be more than happy for more orc dominion!

HierophantasHierophantasalmost 4 years ago
Future

I get your pains, I also like noblewomen aspect of the story. I think partially why I loved Sylvia and Susannah so much is that they were proper noble ladies, even if forced into un ladylike situations. Though compared to Amelia they also didn't get corrupted to their core to change personality radically.

hentgasmhentgasmalmost 4 years ago
Congrats on completing your epic saga!

Just my two cents- why not write about the past? Jeanette and Turrogg's history is still open for exploration. It'd be great to see their relationship throughout the years.

This would also give you a chance to write the corruption themes that you do so well.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 4 years ago
Congrats on completing your epic saga!

Some of my two cents.

Instead of writing future stuff. Why not write the past? There's a lot of history between Jeanette and Turrogg. It'd be great to see their history together as King and Queen.

This would allow you to write corruption for several OCs. Them falling for orcs and etc.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 4 years ago

Jeanette has always been my favorite character and I think your strongest through the series.

If you do a rewrite I would love to see more on the story arc sexually between Jeanette and some of the other characters in her inner circle as she becomes more corrupted sexually. For example in Rebels you give us the sexual buildup and scene where Daniels and Jeanette have a sexual confrontation physically as Queen and servant, but then that sex arc in the story and other sequels never happens again. Would love to see a few more scenes/side stories as she dominates him more. Perhaps this could be the background story as to why he betrays her later in Triumph.

Another would be the sexual relationship between Jeanette and her sons Grotok, Belkor and Trogar . We have that as a side story in Queens Party, but this theme of incest/taboo never really happens again in the main stories. What ever came of Trogar's obsession with his mother? What if Jeanette had a child from Agmar or Grotok? What of the other son Vilknar?

OrcDominionOrcDominionalmost 4 years agoAuthor
Feedback

Hentai,

The centaurs resettled into the Angrian March area evacuated by Markoz and Brigitte. They are definitely still around, but I didn't go too much into them since I didn't know what kind of creatures they would evolve into, beyond half-hose/half-human, half-horse/half-elf, and half-horse/half-orc. If you have any suggestions let me know!

Anon,

Thanks for the feedback on world building. It is definitely something I will have to consider. The ending scene could definitely use a description of how life has gone on in Orlous once Augras took power. Your other points are also well taken and something I will think about and consider. Thank you for taking the time to write!

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 4 years ago

The main thing I missed in the Dominion series was a good look on how, besides the princesses, the rest of the population was corrupted.

You regularily mentionned how clothing fashion was altered in Zentara, and I remember the wedding mass rape and a bit about the case of a peasant girl being raped being brought up to Susannah... Ah and the catabrian women killing their rape babies... But on the whole the main characters did their thing, and their world remains a vague background. Lyriena discovered elven prostitutes in Ruar, and talked about fixing birth rates with orc immigrants, but that didn't go further than a few lines of exposition, and it didn't really affect the story either way. There was a rebellion in zentara, but I don't remember other motives than personal issues for a few nobles.

I hate to quote a non-pornographic author, but there

"It is my job to create universes, as the basis of one novel after another. And I have to build them in such a way that they do not fall apart two days later. Or at least that is what my editors hope. However, I will reveal a secret to you: I like to build universes which do fall apart. I like to see them come unglued, and I like to see how the characters in the novels cope with this problem. I have a secret love of chaos. There should be more of it."

I feel that you put your universe aside, to let the characters' story develop according to your plan without interference; and that it would have been more interesting if they had to deal with the world resisting, pushing along, or falling apart.

And I imagine that a good way to add that to an erotic story would have been to add short substories with one-time characters.

In this last chapter I had to fill in with my own imagination what happened in the city of Orlous and the castles of Thesta after the orcs took over...

MuqaliMuqalialmost 4 years ago

Your stuff is great, and my favorite is easily the rape and corruption aspect. Without the corruption I agree it wouldn't be nearly as fun. But this is a great read, like your other stuff, and I look forward to reading more!

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