All Comments on 'Tricked!'

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WillowxOCWillowxOCover 9 years ago
Truly the dose of trans misogyny I neeeded today

First off, I'd like to thank you. There are simply not enough of these lovely stories about trans women tricking people into sleeping with them. Sure, in real life, the reasons for disclosure are complex, and more often than not trans women can find plenty of willing partners to have sex with, but I really, really like a story with indecipherable character motivations. I think blatant inconsistencies between reality and what's presented are a real turn on.

Also, sexual assaults often turn into consensual sex, despite what any common sense might lead one to believe. And despite horrifically high rates of rape and sexual assault amongst trans women (especially trans women of color), and extremely low number of cases of them being the perpetrators, it only makes sense that they would likely be the ones to commit these acts in your story. So thank you so much for writing this. My only complaint is that if you could somehow change the rating system so that I could give this negative stars, I would appreciate this greatly.

Joscelyn2tgJoscelyn2tgover 9 years ago
Wow, Now That Was Interesting (NOT)...

...And Thank YOU Willow for that lovely sarcasm, as it was the only enjoyable thing in this non-consensual jumble of transphobic and feministic attacks. I just wanted to wait and make sure its score was low enough before adding anything that would increase it, even any point a comment might add, but that effort Willow, was stellar. I wasn't even quite sure where you were going there at first, but the result was great, so kudos are in order!

IrvingParkeIrvingParkeover 9 years ago
I want my time back.

Well, let's see here, in that short burst of creative douchebaggery, the trans character A: rapes a woman, B: fulfills the stereotype that trans women are out to "trick" people into having sex with them, C: fulfills the stereotype that trans women are predatory, and D: is a total jerk (in ADDITION to the behavior that would seem to already confirm that fact in points A, B and C). And we're supposed to believe that, in the end, the raped woman got off on all of this?

This is unquestionably one of the more offensive stories I've ever read on this site.

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Awful

Just plain terrible.

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Noncon

I write this comment as a trans woman, this story plays heavily into the stereotype that trans women who are lesbians transition to infiltrate female spaces so they can rape them. It's pretty fucking disgusting

And oh my fucking god that pickup line, what complete nonsense.

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Well there is one nice thing...

... At least it isn't yet another abused Sissy story. At least there's some variety to the drivel that should never have been written.

I'm struggling to think of anything positive to say, even sarcastically... The fact that 6 people favourited it just makes things worse. -10,000 stars is still too generous.

BrendaNWBrendaNWover 9 years ago
sorry, not good

as a trans woman and mostly lesbian, I would never think of forcing anyone.. it is all about consent.. I am soft and feminine and sexy, but this was just abuse of power of one person over another

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Really?

It's a fantasy story written by a bisexual female you fucking morons. What were you expecting from the title and description, your own personal fantasy where Rachel is surprised but excited and consented? Should literotica take down their entire nonconsent/reluctance section because you don't like the topic? Get over yourselves.

As to the author, don't let the offended parties scare you off. Work on the writing a bit and add a few more tags for the topic and you've got a fine story.

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
I got a inersting quetion

is there a country called lesbia and do they have flights there?

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Will there be a part 2?

Thought it was pretty good. Hope you enjoyed writing it enough to do a part 2! Not everyone can write n/c stories that are sexy. Its also nice to read a t/g story thats sexy.

T/g stories with humiliated males/sissies are a dime a dozen, and worth just the same. Bravo for taking the path less walked!

IrvingParkeIrvingParkeover 9 years ago
Re: Really?

Non-Consent/Reluctance would have been a good fit for this story. Get over YOUR self. You don't have the right to tell the readers here what their opinions can and cannot be. Most of us who have a love and appreciation for transwomen do NOT find it to be either erotic or even acceptable that vile, untrue and despicable stereotypes are reinforced, even in fiction. Perhaps ESPECIALLY in fiction, since that's where they're most often found and upheld, then taken by the reader an incorrectly applied to the real world. Granted, no one expects any real social change to be affected by an erotic literature web site, but let's not pretend that impressionable minds aren't reading this crap and taking it to be truth. It's attitudes like the ones expressed in and created by this story that spur violence against and even murder of trans individuals. That cannot be allowed to continue without protest, and those of us who know better WILL speak out against it whether you like it or not.

HeisenhugHeisenhugover 9 years ago
Also RE: Really?

I just want to add to Irving's reply, which I completely agree with, a correction that needs to be addressed for anyone that missed it.

Anon, you claim this story was written by a bisexual woman. You are wrong on all accounts, the story's fingerprint gives a fairly high confidence that the author is a straight male, possibly not married, I'd guess at late 20s but more likely mid thirties or older. Likely American, at least a half decent education, not enough data to infer religion or ethnic background. Definite transphobe, almost as certainly homophobe to some degree.

Why do I say that? Let's see...

Setting is a dive bar, fairly low grade but not the worst. The description and terms are pretty classically American (or possibly Canadian, too much overlap). Kind of place you go to pickup chicks or drown your sorrows.

Rachel is written as the stereotypical hard drinking butch/tom boy lesbian. Slight predatory leaning in her pickup routine. Basically she's the kind of "female behaving male" that seems popular in some groups of bigots. She /could/ be a feminists creation except for her behaviour in the alley. No woman or gay person would write a lesbian character getting turned on by that scene. That kind of nonsense is solely the domain of the breed of scum who are convinced lesbians can be cured by a good cock. That solidifies the straight male homophobe to near certainty.

There's also supporting evidence in the form of her not fighting back. In the position described she would have had no problem grabbing Michelle's balls and doing enough damage to incapacitate her attacker. Men tend not to write that sort of move, a woman hasn't the same instinctive reaction. I suspect most women wouldn't write that kind of capitulation to rape either.

Then there's the stereotype near the beginning of "she's rejected our advances and thus must be a lesbian". It's cleverly framed by it being only implied in Rachel's behaviour, but still clearly present. That type of thinking usually points to three kinds of egotistical make who can't conceive a woman might not be interested in him, and also tends to suggest college age or within 20 years over, roughly how long it takes for that conceit to be slapped out. There's no feeling out or clues to indicate sexuality beyond this point, which in itself is terrible writing imo.

The suspicion of not being married is tenuous, but the boozing and pickup portion has enough familiarity to be plausible.

Let's move on to all the things wrong about Michelle, it's quite the list:

- most real transwomen would likely avoid the bar described, and definitely be more hesitant about picking people up there. There's too much risk of violence in the setup given. This isn't a solid generalisation, but it's good enough to reduce plausibility.

- that dress. Red evening dress, low cut, high slit. Heels mixed in. Nice, but totally out of place. In real life you'd be thinking "that's weird, what's she doing in here?". Girls trying to pass don't call attention to themselves like that, they don't raise doubts that would look for a focus.

- lack of purse or handbag. Could just be overlooked, but there's some implications that point at the author not thinking about it at all, suggesting male.

- accepting drinks from strangers... Paranoia over spiked drinks should be on every womans mind when out solo.

- literally almost everything in the alley scene is wrong, some lesser issues include a lack of gaff (essential for that dress type) and being able to pin Rachel's shoulders with her knees while still having her mouth at crotch level (impressive move).

- I find it questionable that the whole pinned by knees thing would work anyway. You're very limited in how much force you can apply in that particular position due to leverage and balance issues. Plus it's murder on the thighs and calves.

- feminising hormones decrease sperm amount and thickness, as well as reducing erectile function in most cases, though not always.

- rapists don't normally encourage their victims to shout.

I could go on, but the pattern is "transwomen according to someone with no experience" ... Though the consistent use of "girl cock" suggests familiarity .

I could continue but I think I made my point. It's all statistical analysis and profiling. It could be wrong, in part or in sum, but there's so little contra indication that I'm happy with my guesses. Sure, a good author can write characters and scenes that don't reflect their experiences, but this guy isn't trying that hard and even good authors tend to write best when they write what they know.

Fiction is very powerful, it can let us see the real world with small and believable changes. Sure you can write a story on the premise "what if humans could fly" but I think there's more enjoyment to be had in "what if there was no hate or violence" and similar.

Besides, I find consent supremely sexy.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
Anon lesbia

No there is not a country called lesbia but there is a Greek island in the northeastern Aegean called Lesbos and I believe its people were originally called Lesbians. This is neither mockery or homophobism, just thought I'd answer the question.

GrrrreatImaginationGrrrreatImaginationalmost 9 years ago
Categories.

As you've already deduced from previous comment, this story should be categorised in NonConsent/Reluctance.

This was a sexual assault story. You told it from the perspective of the victim, and you clearly chose to describe her non-consent and revulsion. While you did a good job of that, and provided good dialogue, there isn't any doubt that it should be in the NC/R category.

I had hoped that you would allow the victim to discover some attraction, or the rapist to discover some compassion. As long as you are in the NC/R category, please consider adding a second chapter where the roles are reversed. I'd love to see the whole gang explain the situation to the rapist.

DianeRedfernDianeRedfernover 7 years ago
Surprisingly brutal

You caught me by surprise here, not about Michelle having male parts but about her raping Rachel's mouth. Well written, you are a very talented writer - but it just turned too angry for me.

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